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To: Brumar89 who wrote (17715)	6/9/2012 11:36:31 AM
From: Wharf Rat	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

Of course it had nothing to do with Watts; 7 year college dropout Watts kicked him out for being crazy. Zombie lies for zombie readers I have shown how poorly qualified Steven Goddard is to analyse climate related data but I’d like to give him the honorific of Doctored Goddard, because doctoring the data to suit his bias is what he does. Unfortunately he isn’t very good at it and much of it becomes embarrassingly obvious with just a little sceptical research. Maybe he should be Struck Off? reallysciency.blogspot.co.uk Zombie Lies A guest post by Kevin O'Neill zombie lie n. A false statement that keeps getting repeated no matter how often it has been refuted. Steven Goddard must be a fan of Lewis Carroll's The Hunting of the Snark because Real Science is nothing if not repetitive. Like Carroll's Bellman, Goddard must believe, "What I tell you three times is true." Still, Goddard isn't taking any chances. Some lies get repeated four or five times. Take the case of "open water" at the North Pole: Real Science has repeatedly tried to make the case that the current loss of Arctic sea-ice is nothing unusual. One specific piece of evidence to 'support' this claim is a photograph of a U.S. Navy Submarine - the USS Skate - supposedly in open water at the North Pole on March 17, 1959. This is a zombie lie. Goddard repeats it no less than 5 times: Been There, Done That In The Arctic Arctic Temperatures vs 1958 Ice Free North Pole At Peak Ice On March 17, 1959 NYT And IPCC 10 Years Ago : Ages-Old Icecap at North Pole Is Now Liquid, Scientists Find North Pole Then and Now And just in case, there's also a guest post by Goddard, Open Water At The North Pole over at WattsUpWithThat. reallysciency.blogspot.com The USS Skate *did* surface at the North Pole on March 17, 1959. And that is a photo of the USS Skate. It is *not* a photo of the USS Skate surfacing in open water at the North Pole on March 17, 1959. The best guess is that the photo is from *August 1958* - when it surfaced at Drift Station Alpha. reallysciency.blogspot.com