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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (192090)	6/19/2012 12:47:40 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 543798

Existentialism is more like Zen, relativity or probability. It cannot be easily explained, and the student has to see it for themselves for a thorough understanding. But I feel you are not really trying to understand. And I am not obfuscating. It is very complicated. If nothing else, that should be obvious. Yes, if I am not an expert on the 60's I don't know who is? No brag, just fact. I lived at the headquarters almost from day one and participated fully in the movement. The San Francisco Bay area. And not everyone who lived through the 60's really participated in the 60's, or examined it. Certainly Romney, Bush and most right wingers never figured out what was going on. Both protested the hippies.

To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (192090)	6/19/2012 6:13:09 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 543798

What I get here, from Koan, is an idea that existentialism leads to one place. IMO that makes no sense at all. You and Koan could both be existentialists, and come to completely different POVs. I mean if the whole thing is based upon the individual, than it's going to be subjective. So you can't really tell other people they aren't being existential enough, or they aren't doing it "right" or that they got "lost"- especially not when the existentialist philosophers themselves often seem to disagree.