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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (192141)	6/20/2012 9:18:51 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 543801

And if John has the heart for it I 'd like to hear from him how the Christian existentialists get to "be" when there is all that religious doctrine throne into the mix. Quickly. As I've said, the best way to do this is read state of the art existential theology. And Tillich, the two volumes I recommended, are just that. The mistake most folk make is identifying religion with belief in certain cosmologies--two story or three story universes, and the presumed facticity of founding myths. Tillich makes the point that the religious question is that of the meaning of life and religion is about taking certain stances toward it. Couple that with Calvin's notion of the radical finitude of human existence (can't know beyond the finite), and one gets to the "homelessness" notion of human reality in Heidegger. He uses the metaphor, it's been a while so I hope this is correct, that humans are thrown into a world homeless. There is no stamp on them which tells them their place. Tillich and Bultmann both work off this argument. They don't get to the Pascalian wager, as you sometime see in treatments of existentialism like the wiki treatment, but rather to the stance of faith and ultimate loyalties when dealing with the angst of finitude. Kierkegaard, to keep dropping names, has a religiousness A and B. A is Pascal, sort of--I'll use some notion of a deity to get out of the angst. B is to embrace the angst as integral to the life that's given. Got to run. Today's lots of tripping around before the heavy heat hits after lunch. Supposed to get to 96 in northeast Jersey today.