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To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88826)6/21/2012 11:27:21 PM
From: puborectalis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
The darkening clouds of the slowing economy could provide a bright spot for consumers: gasoline at $3 a gallon — or less — by autumn.



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88826)6/22/2012 11:15:49 AM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Respond to of 89467
 
the liberal MSM has reported on it.

NBC until the other day has never used the words fast and furious even though it has been going on for over 2 years.

the people are brain washed aand you are happy about it, pathetic.

Brain Williams has never said a word about the story, amazing



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88826)6/22/2012 11:18:21 AM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Respond to of 89467
 
Jon Stewart Trashes Obama’s Executive Privilege Assertion On Fast And Furious

oh oh no traction? here's Jony

VIDEO
by Frances Martel | 11:20 pm, June 21st, 2012


Jon Stewart‘s patience for the Obama administration on Fast and Furious is rapidly dwindling. On Day 2 of his reporting on the operation he joked the Obama administration called “Donde están los Weapons de Automaticos” so they could claim to not know what “Fast and Furious” was, Stewart made a game show out of comparing comments Democrats have been using to differentiate their reasons for the President invoking executive privilege from President George W. Bush‘s.

Stewart explained the situation against today, particularly that Congress has been demanding thousands of documents on the matter, and just when they hold Attorney General Eric Holder in contempt, the President invokes executive privilege, which Stewart jokes “was when an executive could have sex with your wife on your wedding night,” or something like that.

To figure out whether the Democrats have successfully distinguished this executive privilege from the previous administration, Stewart gave them three tries, with Rep. Carolyn Maloney and Jay Carney failing, and the last try– in which they managed to call the opposition to the use a “witch hunt” rather than a “fishing expedition”– finally a success of sorts.

The segment via Comedy Central below:

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-trashes-obamas-executive-privilege-assertion-on-fast-and-furious/



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88826)6/22/2012 11:43:46 AM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Respond to of 89467
 
As you can see, CBS if finally covering it .... after only getting attention from conservative media up till now.

You really think independents will be upset with conservatives for pointing out a program that killed over 300 people, including one American LEO? Sure I know liberals don't care.



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88826)6/22/2012 8:00:38 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 89467
 
Why defend Obama’s abuse of executive privilege?

By Jennifer Rubin
The Post editorial board, with plenty of criticism for House Republicans, nevertheless reaches the same position that conservatives have been advocating this week with regard to President Obama’s exercise of executive privilege: “Congress’s authority to gather information is broad — as broad as its sweeping powers to legislate, spend public money and hold executive officials accountable through impeachment. No doubt a lot of congressional investigations are partisan fishing expeditions. For better or worse, that comes with the democratic territory. Absent very strong countervailing considerations — stronger than some of those the administration has asserted in this case — Congress is generally entitled to disclosure.”

The mystery remains, however, why Democrats on Capitol Hill — who may well face a Romney administration next year, have an institutional interest in preserving Congress’s ability to conduct oversight and are struggling not to go down with the Obama campaign (which is taking on water at an alarming rate — should defend the president on this one. Whether Attorney General Eric Holder lied under oath or this is much to do about nothing, why prolong ad elevate the scandal?

The defense of Obama’s flimsy executive privilege claim is bad politics and bad law (unlike Obama’s immigration edict, which is good politics and bad law). The impulse in politics is to circle the wagons whenever “your side” is attacked. Hence the left-wing blogosphere and congressional Democrats, who regard Republican executive imperialism as akin to an anti-democratic coup, find nothing wrong with the administration’s stonewalling. This is the triumph of political partisanship over principle. Liberals certainly don’t believe in the flimsy use of executive privilege, except, of course, if Obama is wielding the privilege and there’s an election coming up.

I’m not at all impressed with the argument that Obama is entitled to stiff Congress because House Republicans are playing politics. That sure wasn’t the Watergate or Iran-Contra or Valerie Plame standard. Democrats wanted to get Nixon, Reagan and Bush in those instances, but that partisan motive wasn’t germane, was it?

The smart play for Democrats is to take the oxygen out of this scandal, prevail on the administration to fork over as many documents as possible and preserve their ability to keep watch on future Republican administrations. This is so obvious one can only conclude that irrational partisanship has overwhelmed rational self-interest.

washingtonpost.com



To: Cautious_Optimist who wrote (88826)6/22/2012 11:11:49 PM
From: Brumar893 Recommendations  Respond to of 89467
 
Why are the Republicans making a mountain out of this Fast and Furious thing? I mean, sure, like a few hundred people got killed, but only one of them was an American. The rest were Mexicans, and if Obama and Attorney General Holder don't care about them, then why should the Republicans, amiright?" -- Nuking Politics: Why Are the Republicans Being So Political?


Holder Lied, Mexicans Died, Liberals: So What?