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To: Greg or e who wrote (27608)6/25/2012 6:41:18 AM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
Natural Selction is blind: bereft of goal planning, thinking about some desired outcome, believing something, or trying to do something.

Never ceases to amaze how deep the ignorance goes with these apologist fellows you manage to cut n paste from all the time here . That even today with all the new scientific understanding of a field that is so vast in scope & added to everyday , they can still come up with such narrowed down cartoon essays, flagrantly sophomoric sermons , which are as meaningless as they are built upon false premises .

The short answer is evolution has strong random elements, but natural selection is not a random process. It is a mechanism which gives rise to the great complexity seen in all living organisms today. It does not indicate what the result will be, but it does explain that complexity can be and builds in cumulative steps toward greater adaptability .

At least these fellows you cut & paste from could study the subject at hand before commenting and try to bring their knowledge up past 1955-65 to current models of understanding ...





To: Greg or e who wrote (27608)6/25/2012 6:46:37 AM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
Things we thought were non-physical, such as thoughts, beliefs, and experiences (i.e., mental states), cannot be known to be real. Or, simplifying, they don't exist. Yet, we can test natural, physical stuff scientifically, so that's what is believed to be real.

We do know now that thoughts & feelings (& beliefs) are real physical things and they were from when your brain was first starting to be hard wired as a child .From every sensory impression both internally or externally , your thoughts become molecules in motion the moment you think them & the reverse is true as well . It is vastly complex but everytime you have a thought there are instantaneous transformations of each thought into millions of neuropeptides which flood your bloodstream and they become chemical messengers of that dominate emotion.

In your bloodstream these neuropeptides which represent that thought or emotion is transformed actually insert themselves into cells , with a special receptacle made just for it on your cells membrane just like a lock & keyhole . After that the neuropeptide is absorbed into the cell . They have found that over time cells develope more & more of these receptors to these mino acids which they are most exposed . And over time your cells create a self fullfilling emotional prophecy for you (obviously for you) and begin to crave the neuropeptides to which they are most exposed .

These cells love these neuropeptides so much they begin to cover their membranes with nothing but receptacles for them , actually shutting down other vital functions and become nothing but vessels for these neuropeptides . They become like a drug addicts and the only way the hypothalamus can keep creating these neuropeptides craved now by your cells is for the brain to keep creating the emotions which will create them . Then the only way your brain can experience the emotions necessary to create those neuropeptides craved by the cells , is to create a reality which will illicit those emotions forming a neuro chemical loop.

They have found that your body itself in combination with the brain has become addicted to certain emotional states and whether those emotional states feel good or bad the cells have been conditioned now to crave them . In your case greg the addictions are plainly obvious , lol... next time you have a real thought now you are informed of the true reality , that all your thoughts, beliefs & emotions have their basis in one addcited state or the other of physiochemical reactions in the neurochemistry of the brain & body .

Thoughts are physical , there's absolutely no doubt about it now so send your fellow "cut n paste" expert a new pack of crayolas and send another pack of crayons to Prof "no thing" Craig while your at it too . And try to remind them that science has evolved quite a ways from 1955/65 from which they seem to get all their data .