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To: dan grone who wrote (13097)11/26/1997 12:38:00 PM
From: Don Kelly  Respond to of 18263
 
>>I am not a fan of this company...<<

Neither am I, and if he had in-the-money options that were about to expire as claimed in the press release, wouldn't it be stupid of him not to exercise them?



To: dan grone who wrote (13097)11/26/1997 12:45:00 PM
From: Stanley L Brown  Respond to of 18263
 
DG,

"I am not a fan of this company but I do find it ironic that those who are short Zitel attack Jack King for joining them in selling shares."

I personally am not attacking Jack for his sale, matter of fact its the first smart thing hes done in over a year and a half :)

P.S. By the way I am a fan :)

Happy Trading

Stan



To: dan grone who wrote (13097)11/26/1997 12:52:00 PM
From: CalculatedRisk  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 18263
 
Dan, I applaud Jack King's decision to sell! IMO, selling is the correct decision.

Lets review the transaction. According to the following SEC filing:
sec.gov

On 9/30/96, Mr. King had 601,924 shares of exercisable options. This had a value (on 9/30/96) of $5.122M based on the then fair market of $9.875 less the exercise price of the option. (This is directly from the SEC filing). This means Mr. King's average exercise price is $1.36. Since these options are "expiring" they most likely have exercise prices below the average - but lets use the average for calculation purposes.

1) Mr. King exercised 100K options at $1.36. Fair market value is $12.45 (according to the 144 filing). Since these are non-qualified options (thanks to Mr. Suzman for reminding me!), Mr. King has a taxable event of $1.11M. ($12.45 - $1.36) * 100K shares.
2) Mr. King's maximum tax liability is 40% (28% FED, 11% CA State). This is $0.44M in taxes.
3) Mr. King sold 60K options at $12.45 or $747K Cash to Mr. King.
4) Mr. King paid $136K for the shares. $747K less $136K = $611K to Mr. King.
5) If we subtract taxes of $444K from cash received $611K - Mr. King received $167K after taxes.
6) Of course, Mr. King may use a "full service" broker (transaction costs) and this will reduce the cash in his wallet.

My $200K calculation used slightly different assumptions - but it is evident that Mr. King put serious after tax money in his pocket AND raised his tax basis on the remaining 40K shares to $12.45!

BTW, reread the press release. This is typical Kingese. The PR implies that King just covered his costs and taxes - but if you read the text carefully - his selling was "driven by the need to cover costs and the resulting tax liability" - and, oh well, put a little cash in King's pocket too<G>.

Regards, Bill



To: dan grone who wrote (13097)11/26/1997 1:48:00 PM
From: Roger A. Babb  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 18263
 
Dan, I am not attacking Jack King for selling shares, most insiders do sell often. But his sale told me that there is no good news for Zitel on the horizon else he would have waited until January to sell and thus delay his tax liability. As a result I substantially increased my short position safe in the knowledge that no big contracts are near.