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To: Sam who wrote (192760)6/28/2012 3:35:47 PM
From: Mary Cluney  Respond to of 541933
 
<<<I am coming to believe that this decision is a (brilliant) poisoned chalice. >>>

I disagree. I see more upside than downside. Worst case, there is some inconsequential collateral downside damage but the upside could be huge - especially if Roberts portends changes to the monolithic Conservative courts mindset. Kennedy can come apart.



To: Sam who wrote (192760)6/28/2012 3:36:18 PM
From: Win Smith  Respond to of 541933
 
The Supreme Court will uphold Obamacare. Here's why. csmonitor.com.

Ok, this is Robert Reich from yesterday. Not totally correct, he predicted 6-3 with Kennedy going along, and his third reason (commerce clause) was definitely off. don't know about #2.. But Roberts does appear to have some sense of gravitas about the role of the Supreme Court that's lacking in, say, Scalia, who sees nothing wrong about going duck hunting with Dick Cheney, or Thomas, whose wife is off running some conservative super-PAC. . I still wouldn't particularly trust Roberts to do the right thing, versus doing the politcal thing, in general, but I'm not quite ready to read this as a clever political ploy either. Here's Reich's #1:

First, Chief Justice John Roberts is — or should be — concerned about the steadily-declining standing of the Court in the public’s mind, along with the growing perception that the justices decide according to partisan politics rather than according to legal principle. The 5-4 decision in Citizen’s United, for example, looked to all the world like a political rather than a legal outcome, with all five Republican appointees finding that restrictions on independent corporate expenditures violate the First Amendment, and all four Democratic appointees finding that such restrictions are reasonably necessary to avoid corruption or the appearance of corruption. Or consider the Court’s notorious decision in Bush v. Gore.

The Supreme Court can’t afford to lose public trust. It has no ability to impose its will on the other two branches of government: As Alexander Hamilton once noted, the Court has neither the purse (it can’t threaten to withhold funding from the other branches) or the sword (it can’t threaten police or military action). It has only the public’s trust in the Court’s own integrity and the logic of its decisions — both of which the public is now doubting, according to polls. As Chief Justice, Roberts has a particular responsibility to regain the public’s trust. Another 5-4 decision overturning a piece of legislation as important as Obamacare would further erode that trust.

It doesn’t matter that a significant portion of the public may not like Obamacare. The issue here is the role and institutional integrity of the Supreme Court, not the popularity of a particular piece of legislation. Indeed, what better way to show the Court’s impartiality than to affirm the constitutionality of legislation that may be unpopular but is within the authority of the other two branches to enact?




To: Sam who wrote (192760)6/28/2012 3:41:19 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541933
 
Many many people are going to benefit from this. All those people out there with twenty year olds who don't have their own insurance are already benefitting. Those people might be hypocritical enough to enjoy the benefit but not give obama the credit, but I think for many people- who aren't already politically right wing, the benefits of the ACA are going to be felt, and resonate, and be remembered. Republicans can hope they won't be, but I think it will play out as a favorable.



To: Sam who wrote (192760)6/28/2012 8:38:26 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541933
 
Under the bus with the traitor Roberts say the right wingnuts !!

A National Review Online editorial, under the title “Roberts’s Folly,” said the chief justice and his colleagues had “done violence” to the Constitution. Hackers briefly changed Roberts’ title on Wikipedia to “Chief Traitor of the United States” and labeled him a “coward.” T-shirts declaring “Impeach John Roberts” were soon on sale.


washingtonpost.com