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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224975)	6/30/2012 7:09:03 PM
From: Metacomet	2 Recommendations Respond to of 361688

Speaking of stupid.. All religions are the same, a way to make uneducated people believe some made up, supernatural hocus pocus somehow should impact our lives And then we see such weak minded folks, who buy into that crap and who get excited about dittoing what a drug addicted dolt like Rush Limbaugh says, you know, like you.. ...and then we see these now confirmed mental outliars come on this thread, sharing a philosophy and points of view that any sentient person with a mental age of 11 can destroy..

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224975)	6/30/2012 8:22:33 PM
From: SiouxPal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 361688

What is your religion? Do you believe that Romney will win?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224975)	6/30/2012 8:59:16 PM
From: Cautious_Optimist	5 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 361688

Obviously there is a huge range between religions... Some are polytheistic, some are monotheistic, some are pantheistic. Some believe in Jesus as savior and others think its a colossal hoax... Some think their duty is to bring people into Jesus, or Islam, to save them. There is overlap, Some believe they are monotheistic, while they actually practice polytheism. Some "Christians" believe in Astrology or Numerology, others think those are nuts and/or sinners. Some just go to church or temples for the social stuff, and they don't really care about the words and teachings. Some believe Adam and Eve were from the USA, or that God gave his new word in golden tablets to a fellow named Joseph Smith in New York. Some think Satinism is cool and edgy. Some believe that they can do anything horrible they want in this life because if they accept their savior, they are forgiven if a benevolent altruistic human does not accept the savior, he/she gets eternal hell. Them's the breaks. Some people change religions, or give it up, most choose and stay with the religion of their parents. All religions, by definition, are in conflict with the scientific method and evidence-based reason; in that sense they are ALL the same. That is not a dogma, its simply a function of language and definition, a non-debate. Religions require faith without empirical, replicable evidence. The only assumptions science needs are that this is a real world, and we humans can change "nature" for better, or for worse. Even atheists can be superstitious at a craps table, or in playing a sport; the mind plays with our behaviors! It requires a sense of humor, about others and ourselves. Nobody is perfect at anything, except being themselves. As I have said before on SI, when you are sick, you want technology and medical practices based on the scientific method, not faith... but that doesn't stop people from praying and the data has been conflicting on such placebo matters. It apparently does not harm you so long as you take advantage of science-based medicine. Perhaps there are benefits, of old relatively safe practices like acupuncture that are more than placebo; eventually science will explain it to our benefit. Religion has the immutable answers in holy books, or teaches that humans aren't permitted to know. Science answers one question and asks a dozen more; its a fabulous process, full of challenges, mystery and wonderful findings. A process of knowledge that can be applied by humans to improve or break the planet. It does not leave the responsibility of causality to a God, it is about human choices.

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224975)	6/30/2012 9:39:41 PM
From: SiouxPal	1 Recommendation Respond to of 361688

Since you're tight with Lindybill you might want to advise his thread to say good things about Willard. Reading hundreds of their posts they never talk about Willard. Subject 53920

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224975)	6/30/2012 10:11:28 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	1 Recommendation Respond to of 361688

The only people who are stupid about religion are those who believe it....

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (224975)	7/1/2012 11:05:35 PM
From: PartyTime	1 Recommendation Respond to of 361688

Hi Nadine -- nice to see you posting here as my post there got me banned. And who knows why? Anyway, relative to what you were writing about, I don't have any problem with letting anybody be who they wish to be, anybody religiously figuring out where they want to go and what they wish to believe. This is all good. I it's my very firm belief that this is what you will discover in liberal thinking, progressive thinking ... open-mindedness and all!