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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Road Walker who wrote (23948)7/1/2012 1:39:07 PM
From: TimF1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
The rest of your post is stuff that you personally think will happen

No its about what's already happened, and what is in the law.

Isn't it cool that in a short time, overnight, there will no longer be "pre-existing conditions"?

That's another way of saying isn't universal coverage cool. Its not so cool, because it increases costs, and then drives problematic measures to contain them. Also it isn't what the PPACA does, since it does not provide universal coverage. Those who pushed it for the most part don't even bother to claim that it does. They make extravagant and unlikely claims about the expansion of coverage, but even if those claims where correct there would be many people left without coverage (at least some of whom would have lost coverage because of the law). And some of those uncovered people with have preexisting conditions.



To: Road Walker who wrote (23948)7/1/2012 3:05:59 PM
From: i-node  Respond to of 42652
 
>> First Tim, learn the difference between your and you're. It hurts my eyes.

John, do you REALLY want to go there? You've done a great job of rehabilitating your AMD Unmod years, don't give it up!



To: Road Walker who wrote (23948)7/2/2012 2:31:48 PM
From: Lane36 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
Seriously Tim, you can't be such a jerk that you don't think that's a step forward in our society.

It may be a step forward in terms of compassion in the short term. Ya gotta feel sorry for folks who get sick and then can't get coverage. You are, indeed, a jerk if you don't.

But you're a dope if you don't see that the compassion is short-term feel-good. Long term, it diminishes the system and everybody who participates, including those with pre-existing condition. That's about a dumb as eating your seed corn, which feels good If we want to take that step forward in compassion, then we should help those who need it with charity, either private or public. Don't take the risk basis out of insurance. Or, if we do, at least have the perspicacity and intellectual integrity to recognize that it's no longer insurance and quit calling it that. It's a different paradigm.

Compassion is not the only factor upon which to judge a system. Effectiveness, robustness, cost-effectiveness, etc. matter at least as much. Recognizing that does not make one a jerk.