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To: NikhilJog who wrote (48695)7/11/2012 12:51:33 PM
From: Paul Senior  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78651
 
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To: NikhilJog who wrote (48695)7/11/2012 12:57:57 PM
From: Paul Senior2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78651
 
Nikhiljog: XIN. I'll explain it or justify it this way:

This is a Ben Graham oriented thread. It is therefore metric based. As in stocks trading at low multiples. With some historical relevance. (hopefully/usually)

1. Yes, I am buying XIN here precisely and only because it is trading at low multiples.

2. I did not go out looking for Chinese real estate stocks. I have no desire to be in Chinese real estate in either a direct or derivative way. XIN came into view with metrics I liked. (With not-so-good historical support though) The stock found me. I bought. Pretty much that simple, rightly or wrongly.



To: NikhilJog who wrote (48695)7/11/2012 1:47:03 PM
From: MCsweet  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78651
 
NikhilJog,

I think you are missing the point of one of the most basic approachs to value investing, which is to buy stocks at low multiples. I go where the best value leads me. (This has served me extremely well over the past 11 years, although not so well recently.)

Regarding XIN: the cash, low PE, low PB, and large buyback are very attractve IMO, but they could be a scam or a value trap. This is definitely a speculation. I would not invest my life savings in it.

That being said, almost everbody knows, including your mysterious "peeps," that China is slowing down and has problems. I myself don't have confidence in China as a whole. For that reason, I have bought some FXP (short China etf) as a partial hedge.

I am not posting to simply defend my position. I would like to hear countering viewpoints to they extent they include real analysis or factual information that I have not considered. If I receive reliable information China's tier two market is going to implode or that XIN is a scam, I would sell out of my position. I have not seen it as of yet.

Thanks,
MC



To: NikhilJog who wrote (48695)8/10/2012 8:22:45 AM
From: MCsweet  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78651
 
Xin,

Xin reports a blowout quarter. I expected a strong quarter after the June land sales figures were released, but not this strong.

May follow up later after earnings call.

MC