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To: sense who wrote (30968)	7/28/2012 1:54:16 PM
From: sense	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

Clearly it's not ready to start eroding Nikon's business from the top end... and the element in the precision optics requirement for serious photography seems likely to generate a pretty significant barrier to scaling... But, it seems pretty clear that the entire lower end range of the digital camera market doesn't really have much of a reason to exist when smart phones are made MORE capable than low end cameras are... at being cameras... NOK will capture that portion of the market that "cares"... including some portion of decisions that will be made based on the ability to avoid buying a camera by buying a phone that is one. I don't have a clue how much influence that's likely to have in the market... over time. From a consumer perspective... it means that at some point "soon"... given a few product cycles... we're going to be getting NOK quality camera capability paired with Samsungs file sharing abilities... for less money than you'd spend on a pocket camera otherwise. Seems an inevitability factor exists there... even if only because there are probably a whole lot more phones being manufactured now than pocket digital cameras... Seems likely to me that the largest impact that emerges will be on the camera markets... without it necessarily making more than an incremental difference in the phone wars... So, maybe among the best bets you could place based on the awareness... would be the "picks and shovel providers" among the chip makers for the phone cams... or shorting the camera makers who depend on the low end of the market for survival ?

To: sense who wrote (30968)	7/28/2012 1:56:14 PM
From: Lahcim Leinad	Respond to of 34857

with some obvious room for a better "self awareness" and correction of capability in relation to depth of focus, which seems more apparent given bright field backlighting issues ? All digital cameras have these issues. My top of the line Canons sure do. Flare with backlight is a lens problem, not a software one. The Nokia 808 PureView is no exception, even though it packs a killer Zeiss lens. So, that's not news to me, nor does it bother me. I'm used to it. It does seem to manage a lot better with indoor lighting or in the shade... Again, same with my top of the line gear. Not much difference. In fact, I "believe" the 808 has a greater dynamic range: the built in image massaging software in the 808 is AWESOME. (Therefore, the "compressed" 8 megapixel files look VASTLY better than the full resolution, raw, unfiltered by Nokia ones.) I'd have to make side by side comparisons to prove this hunch of mine, but I'm pretty sure I'm right. What and how variable are the f and aperture ? The f-stop is constant, @ f/2.4. Only the shutter speed and ISO vary. Shutter speed cannot be set by user, only the ISO can be adjusted to move the shutter speed up or down, accordingly. I don't really have a problem with that. Pretty much the way I work with the big toys: auto everything, with ISO set for what's needed, overriding the exposure up or down as needed. One thing that's really nice on the 808 is the ability to over and under expose by up to 4 stops. That beats my pro toys by a stop, in each direction!