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To: koan who wrote (20954)	7/28/2012 2:50:03 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Respond to of 85487

5 trillion ? it's up to 5 trillion and the tax cuts were just for the rich ? the upper bracket got a 3% tax cut, the lower ones 5-10%. Is it all propaganda all the time with you ? when if ever, have you had a thought of your own ?

To: koan who wrote (20954)	7/28/2012 2:50:37 PM
From: gamesmistress	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

"We have that right now for people who don't have insurance." And the Brits have it for people who do. That's what their taxes are going for, a huge and still growing bureaucracy (or in your world, "government") instead of health care. Not the same thing. "Take that 5 trillion Bush squandered on those stupid wars and tax cuts for the rich" Yes, let's rewrite history. And those Bush tax cuts were across the board. "streamlined universal health care" Government bureaucracies don't streamline, they bloat. Nature of the beast. Commercial enterprises streamline when they have to, because of competition or other market changes, or they die. And criticizing a failing system is not throwing your hands in the air and saying: "we can't do it." The Republicans have had a lot of proposals, defeated by the Dems, and Romney has proposals too. (Look them up, I'm not going to do it for you.) We should have had an honest debate years ago, but we got steamrollered with Obamacare. So now, hopefully, the Republicans will steamroller YOU.