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To: koan who wrote (21268)	7/30/2012 2:34:06 PM
From: gamesmistress	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

Your "history" has some gaping holes in it. The Romans conquered Greece first, and were heavily influenced by Greek culture. After the fall of Rome, the Byzantine Empire took over, and eventually the Ottoman Turks. "With the Turkish conquest, many Byzantine Greek scholars, who up until then were largely responsible for preserving Classical Greek knowledge, fled to the West, taking with them a large body of literature and thereby significantly contributing to the Renaissance." How did the Roman Catholic Church suppress these scholars? "[Socrates] was tried, convicted, and executed for corrupting the young." You don't see any contradiction between this and your statement "The ancient Greeks encouraged folks to discuss ideas"?????

To: koan who wrote (21268)	7/30/2012 2:41:35 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 85487

I don't know if this has been posted as I don't read most post here. But you just couldn't make this stuff up in a fictional novel. What Romney thinks is good, is way more socialistic leaning than anything Obama could dream up; <iitt Romney had kind words for Israel’s health care system Monday, even though, as ThinkProgress reports, it resembles the recently passed Affordable Health Care Act, which his party has been trying to repeal. The presumptive Republican presidential candidate said he admired Israel for spending less of its gross domestic product on health than the U.S. “You spend eight percent of G.D.P. on health care,” he said. “You’re a pretty healthy nation. We spend 18 percent of our G.D.P. on health care, 10 percentage points more.” The country’s health-care system includes an individual mandate clause, requiring citizens to buy one of four HMOs offered by the government since 1995, with the state covering 60 percent of a person’s medical costs. The remaining 40 percent is covered by income-related tax collections. Last month, The Jewish Daily Forward reported that Israel boasts an average life expectancy of 82 years, four years more than the U.S., with half the mortality rate due to heart disease. “I think that America can learn a lot from the Israeli system,” said one Orly Manor, dean of the Hadassah-Hebrew University Braun School of Public Health. “The quality is high, and the outcomes are good.” An individual mandate is at the heart of the ACA, which was recently upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. It was also a component of the health care system Romney implemented during his tenure as governor of Massachusetts.

To: koan who wrote (21268)	8/13/2012 4:16:45 AM
From: average joe	Respond to of 85487

Socrates was Athenian not a Greek. There were two charges against Socrates. Socrates acts wickedly, and with criminal curiosity investigates things under the earth, and in the heavens. He also makes the worse to be the better argument; and he teaches these things to others. Socrates, it says, acts unjustly, corrupting the youth; and not believing in those Gods in which the city believes, he introduces other novel daemoniacal natures. He pissed off the powers that be in Athens to the point they gave him a big goblet of poison to drink. Message 28301369