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To: E_K_S who wrote (2112)8/1/2012 3:05:13 PM
From: Spekulatius  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4719
 
re ADM and ROC - i do not see what one has to do with the other. They are completely different business.

As for ROC, i think they are in a lot of commodity business as well, certainly TiO2 and Iron Oxides are commodity business. Even Lithium is a commodity business, also i agree that it is in high demand. ROC stock went to below 5$ during the financial crisis and the barely broke even. That tells me already that there is some vulnerability there and ROC is less of a specialty chemical company than you would think. Most chemical companies claim to be "specialty" chemical companies but still somehow have the same cyclicality than the basic chemical companies.

I did enjoy your writeup on ROC (wasn't aware of this company before) and put it on my watch list. I found it interesting that some business lines from Dynamit Nobel (the German company formerly owned by Flick and IPO'd in the mid eighties) ended up in ROC.