To: koan who wrote (22345 ) 8/6/2012 1:39:45 AM From: Jorj X Mckie 2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487 Yes, and northern Florida, I am told, is much more tropical 200 miles north than just 30 years ago. But the wet and dry areas will differ. I am in Alaaka and we are having a record cold and wet summer. All the moistrue and cold is being pushed up here by the jet stream. Extreme drought could cause desertification from kansas to the Pacific ocean. and yet, there is no evidence that there is any increase in extreme weather over a meaningful time period. One thing that would be nice is for the AGW crowd to recognize that no legitimate scientist would consider a 150 year time period to be meaningful in geologic time. Humans have seen this kind of weather many times. People who are still alive have seen worse heat waves before. And where the AGW crowd chooses to see warming as a disaster, historically speaking, warming has been a boon for mankind. And considering that we are at the later stages of an interglacial period, a little warming is not surprising and should, in fact, be expected. When the AGW proponents can show that the warming is outside of normal cyclical variations without fudging the data, they might be taken a little more seriously about the idea that there is meaningful warming. And when the AGW proponents show that it is unmistakeably caused by human activity, they may get taken a little more seriously. And when they show that warming is actually bad for humans, somebody might actually start to care. but when the leaders of the movement don't have a care toward curbing their output of CO2, it is hard to take them seriously. And when they buy homes on the ocean when they are professing that the oceans are going to rise two meters in our lifetimes, it is hard to take them seriously.