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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (29687)8/16/2012 10:10:51 AM
From: Giordano Bruno  Respond to of 69300
 
"We gather often at a famous English friend's winery/cider house outside here & engage in what i fondly call "Shooting the Wit" believe me even those brightest at Langley would have difficulty keeping in step sometimes ."

Such magnificence.
Our you planning a documentary or short film by chance?
One can only hope.
Excellent spelling on that post btw.



To: 2MAR$ who wrote (29687)8/16/2012 10:14:20 AM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 69300
 
"you'd find an excellent fellow for we californians are an easy bunch that live & let live and quite polite normally"

I doubt it,

Afraid to Come out of the Closet?

Carol Brown

Fascistic liberals routinely vandalize cars identified as conservative in blue states. This does NOT happen in red states. To any liberal who dares to disagree, I challenge you to test it out by doing something to identify yourself as conservative to strangers in your blue area. The fact is liberals are intolerant, conservatives are live and let live folks.

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"I don't dare put a Romney bumper sticker on my car."

"I'm too scared to put a Romney sign in front of my house."

For those of you who live in solid red states, this is probably not an issue. But for everyone else, it often is. The sentiments above have become a common refrain in comments on many conservative blogs.

People are scared. They're scared someone will key their car or slash their tires (or worse). They're scared someone will damage their home (or worse).

What to do?

The preference (based on my non-scientific study of blog comments in recent months) is to play it safe and avoid any risk.

I can't say if this is wise, or not. It may well be. But the underlying fear is worth noting. In essence, we have now become a culture where the progressive left will resort to all manner of thuggery when confronted with opposing views. This is, needless to say, outrageous.

It begs the question of how to cope with this new America we find ourselves in.

How do civil people confront intimidation and violence?

Thinking about it intellectually, and removing for a moment real life concerns for personal safety and protection of one's property, it seems undesirable to scurry under a rock and hide, for that will embolden the opponent even more. And that is not how free people live.

So getting back to real life concerns about safety, the question remains about what to do. Are we at a point in America where we must draw a line in the sand and fearlessly stand up for what we believe? And in so doing, are we willing to deal with the consequences of doing so? At what point does one take the risk because to do any less is ensuring a terrible fate? Or is it better to be realistic and avoid a terrible fate for oneself and one's family? Where does the national tenor come from? Above? Or

below? Are we waiting for those in power to shift this awful norm that has overwhelmed our nation? Or is it up to each individual to take a stand and not rely on powerful voices to make it safe to do so?

Have you taken the risk to expose your political preference by coming out of the closet as a Romney supporter? (And please don't take this as an invitation to vent your frustrations with Romney. Our grievances have all been aired ad nauseum. We're moving on...) Were there any negative consequences? Were you able to rally others in your community so you could make a collective statement? Please share your thoughts, experiences, and ideas.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/afraid_to_come_out_of_the_closet.html#ixzz23iOt36r5



To: 2MAR$ who wrote (29687)8/16/2012 10:27:27 AM
From: longnshort  Respond to of 69300
 

Report: Leftist Gunman Who Attacked Family Research Council Worked At LGBT Community Center…
It’s safe to say he’s also an Obama supporter.

(hate is all you liberals hate)

Update to this story.

Via NBC News:

A gunman who shot a security guard Wednesday at the Family Research Council office in Washington, D.C., was carrying a handgun and several additional rounds of ammunition, federal investigators told NBC News.

The suspect’s name has not been released, but two law enforcement officials told NBC News he is Floyd Corkins, 28, from nearby Herndon, Va.

Federal officials said the suspect the backpack also contained materials about Chick-fil-A restaurants.

Another official said the suspect bought the gun used in the shooting five days ago.

The Associated Press reported that Corkins had been volunteering at a community center for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. Another official told the AP the shooter made a negative reference about the work of the Family Research Council before opening fire.

weaselzippers.us

Sounds like he'd been thinking of targeting a Chick-Fil-A and found out they support the FRC and went after them instead.





To: 2MAR$ who wrote (29687)8/16/2012 10:52:38 AM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Depraved Homosexuals Blame Family Research Council for 'Climate of Violence' After Leftist Attempts Massacre The Hill reports on the political reaction to today's attempted massacre at the Family Research Council, " Shooting spurs heated debate on gay rights, 'hate group' label" (via Memeorandum).

The left has been firing unhinged hatred all day, from some homosexual lowlife on Twitter, for example (via Twitchy):




Erick Erickson ? @EWErickson 15 Aug 12
Here's the info on the FRC shooting so far: wjla.com/articles/2012/… and then this: twitter.com/BuzzFeedBen/st…



Chase J. @Way2Blue4You [iframe class="twt-follow-button" allowtransparency="true" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/follow_button.html?align=right&button=grey&screen_name=Way2Blue4You&show_count=false&show_screen_name=false&lang=en" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"][/iframe]
Yo @EWErickson, a shooting at #FRC HQ was a long time coming. Though I'm surprised the #AFA wasn't 1st. Hate begets hate. #NOH8 #Bigotry


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  • Plus, here's Sally Kohn on Twitter:




    Sally Kohn @sallykohn [iframe class="twt-follow-button" allowtransparency="true" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/follow_button.html?align=right&button=grey&screen_name=sallykohn&show_count=false&show_screen_name=false&lang=en" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"][/iframe]
    Yes, Family Research Council is a hate group — and calling them such condemns climate of violence FRC has encouraged


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  • And there is so much bottled hatred in this Jessica Naomi Twitter feed, it's shocking:




    Jeff Mims @wiz1965 15 Aug 12
    @JessicaNaomi828 @JoeMyGod @DLoesch Way to show tolerance with intolerance.



    JessicaNaomi @JessicaNaomi828 [iframe class="twt-follow-button" allowtransparency="true" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/follow_button.html?align=right&button=grey&screen_name=JessicaNaomi828&show_count=false&show_screen_name=false&lang=en" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"][/iframe]
    @wiz1965 I DO NOT TOLERATE FUCKING GAY BASHING JESUS FREAKS LIKE YOU & @DLoesch & I DO NOT NEED FUCKING JESUS FREAKS TO TOLERATE ME


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  • JoeMyGod @JoeMyGod 15 Aug 12
    . @DLoesch: "I'm blocking the Joe guy apparently celebrating the FRC shooting." When faced w/facts, resort to outright lies. BREITBART!



    JessicaNaomi @JessicaNaomi828 [iframe class="twt-follow-button" allowtransparency="true" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/follow_button.html?align=right&button=grey&screen_name=JessicaNaomi828&show_count=false&show_screen_name=false&lang=en" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"][/iframe]
    @JoeMyGod who cares what gay basher tyrannical theocRAT @DLoesch spews, let her shove her kill gays bible down her own throat & choke on it


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  • And Joe.My.God. unleashed a torrent of tweets condemning Tony Perkins, for example:




    JoeMyGod @JoeMyGod [iframe class="twt-follow-button" allowtransparency="true" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/follow_button.html?align=right&button=grey&screen_name=JoeMyGod&show_count=false&show_screen_name=false&lang=en" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"][/iframe]
    . @DLoesch Do you also condemn the FRC's claim that gay people are inherently mentally ill pedophiles? bit.ly/wKMrjj


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  • Epic hate-filled homosexual Dan Savage piles on:




    Dan Savage ? @fakedansavage [iframe class="twt-follow-button" allowtransparency="true" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/follow_button.html?align=right&button=grey&screen_name=fakedansavage&show_count=false&show_screen_name=false&lang=en" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"][/iframe]
    Let's remember why FRC was labeled a hate group by Southern Poverty Law Center. It wasn't opposition to gay marriage: splcenter.org/get-informed/i…


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  • And another epic hater, John Aravosis:




    Leticia Velasquez @CauseofourJoy 15 Aug 12
    @aravosis Why does having traditional values equal hate? That is incendiary language and incites violence. Should SPLC be indicted for this?



    John Aravosis @aravosis [iframe class="twt-follow-button" allowtransparency="true" src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets/follow_button.html?align=right&button=grey&screen_name=aravosis&show_count=false&show_screen_name=false&lang=en" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"][/iframe]
    @CauseofourJoy Hate is hate. And sadly, a lot of "traditional values" groups are simply collections of people who hate.


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  • And Aravosis has a blog post justifying the violence, " Does the shooting at the Family Research Council exonerate the group's 20 years of hate?":
    The information is still coming in, but someone apparently started shooting in the lobby of the religious right hate group Family Research council in Washington, DC today. A security guard was unfortunately wounded.

    Conservatives, such as CNN's Erick Erickson, are already trying to tie Democrats to the attack. Why? Because people on the left had the audacity to challenge the Family Research Council's decades of hateful and bigoted attacks against gay and lesbian Americans. And other conservatives are calling for the Southern Poverty Law Center to no longer list the FRC as a hate group because of today's violence. That would be wrong.

    Because of conservatives trying to take political advantage of the shooting I'm now forced to recap just how hateful and bigoted an organization the Family Research Council really is. I'd have preferred to have avoided that this so soon after the attack, but conservatives leave us no choice.
    Continue reading.

    I guess Aravosis doesn't get the satanic irony of defending the violence against FRC (because they "hate"), and then attempting to reject the shooting on the other hand (because violence is "never justified).

    Unlike conservatives, the left has built up an industry attacking conservatives, and people with "traditional values," as "haters." After a while you reap what you sow.

    Jonathan Tobin had a thoughtful piece earlier today, " Will the Left Pause After DC Shooting?":
    ...liberals who have often jumped to the conclusion that all Tea Partiers are violent racists because of stray comments from extremists need to remember that such tactics cut both ways. Those who have repeatedly cautioned conservatives to mind their tongues and be careful about using language that would delegitimize their opponents now must think about what they have been saying in recent weeks and months about the so-called “war on women” or supporters of Chick-fil-A. If they thought violent rhetoric emanating from the right was a problem that could be linked to violence, then they must understand that incitement against conservatives is just as noxious. That is all the more true because almost all of the accusations of right-wing involvement in violence have been proven false while the Washington gunman’s statements make it clear that he was motivated by left-wing politics.
    Word.

    And also from John Hinderaker, Power Line, " THOUGHTS ON THE FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL SHOOTING":
    One of the most troubling aspects of contemporary public life is the frequency with which violent episodes take on a political coloration....

    A wrong turn was taken in the Jared Loughner case. Loughner was a lunatic, so deranged that it remained doubtful for a long time whether he would even be competent to stand trial. There is no reason to think that his killing spree was politically motivated, and to the extent that he had a (crazy) political outlook, it was leftist; he listed The Communist Manifesto as one of his favorite books.

    No matter. The Democratic Party and the media tried, incredibly, in retrospect, to blame Loughner’s shootings on Sarah Palin....

    Then we had the absurdity of the Aurora, Colorado Batman shooter being identified breathlessly as a possible Tea Partier by ABC’s Brian Ross. No such luck. Another nut.

    Today a public school teacher named Floyd Corkins II walked into the Washington, D.C. office of the Family Research Council, armed with a recently-purchased 9 mm pistol. He was stopped by the guard; news reports don’t clearly explain why. Perhaps he had already drawn his gun, or perhaps he just looked suspicious. Some reports say he was carrying a Chick-Fil-A bag. He shot the guard, who wrestled him to the ground. Along the way, Corkins made observations about the political positions of the FRC, and, when the guard pointed a gun at him–it is not clear, to me anyway, whether the guard was armed or he took Corkins’s gun away from him–Corkins begged him not to shoot, saying something to the effect that it was nothing personal, he just had a problem with the FRC’s politics....

    ...denouncing proponents of traditional marriage as “haters” isn’t the only instance of over-the-top liberal rhetoric; on the contrary, hysteria is their stock in trade. Thus, we see Barack Obama claiming that Mitt Romney causes cancer, and Joe Biden asserting bizarrely that Republicans want to put someone–African-Americans, I guess, by a process of elimination–”back in chains.” Liberals should take a deep breath and re-think how they talk about public policy issues. If they are looking for haters, it would seem that the mirror is a good place to start.
    I've followed the homosexual left on almost a day-by-day basis since Proposition 8 passed on November 5th. 2008. It's been almost four years of non-stop intimidation, thuggery, crime, and violence. Today's attempted massacre was only the logical outcome of the left's long campaign of hatred. I think Moonbattery nailed it here, " Armed Moonbat Attacks Family Research Council":
    Imagine if it turns out that Obama’s disgraceful election was the high water mark of moonbattery, and that faith, family, and freedom are the future. Libs aren’t going to get any less angry.
    No, they're not. And that reminds my of some thoughts I wrote in 2008, " Shattering Myths on Domestic Radicals: 'The Baader Meinhof Complex'." There will indeed come a day in America when the radical left, the homosexual extremists, the Occupy Wall Street criminals, and the assorted enablers in the fever swamps of the Democrat (Socialist) Party finally get fed up with mainstream politics and take to the banner of revolutionary murder and violence.

    Today's attempted massacre was indeed the culmination of left-wing hate and agitation. The seething anger is so palpable, it's bleeding from your screen. Someone's going to get killed one of these times, and the perp will be a radical leftist. The MSM's Obama-enablers are going to be shocked to have to report that the same people they've been pumping up for decades are in fact simply fanatical murderers who reject debate and won't take no for an answer.

    RELATED: At The Other McCain, " I Blame Rachel Maddow!"



    To: 2MAR$ who wrote (29687)8/16/2012 2:32:28 PM
    From: longnshort4 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
     
    "We gather often at a famous English friend's winery/cider house outside here & engage in what i fondly call "Shooting the Wit" believe me even those brightest at Langley would have difficulty keeping in step sometimes"

    that's got to be an idiot's circle jerk. some moron says some stupid false thing and you all nod your heads in agreement and snicker like beavis and butthead