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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jlallen who wrote (141138)	8/17/2012 11:35:35 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224738

When Bush invaded Iraq, the Afghan War was ignored until Obama picked up the pace.

To: jlallen who wrote (141138)	8/18/2012 11:35:49 PM
From: Paul V.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224738

jialien, When you see the "Bush ignored" the Afghan war you know its just another excuse for why Obama has screwed it up....the fact is President Pantywaist doomed the effort as soon as he set a withdrawal date. The man has no clue. As you should have learned in your law courses and practice, "there is a time to hold them and a time to fold them." From your statement I believe you do not know the difference. I assume that you know when in law there comes a time to bargain to get the best deal for you clients. From your post I would not use you as my attorney since it appears you have not developed that skill and/or intuition. IMO, Bush went into Iraq, to avenge Sadam's statement of putting a contract out on Bush I for driving him out of Kuwat, plus the extreme christians like the Pat Robinson's and later Jerry Farwell's types trying to convert Islam faith to Christianity. And, he supported the Iraq and Afgan Wars off budget blowing the US budget all to hell with increased debt. Then, Bush made the tax cuts and implemented the Medicare Part D donut hole again not paying for it which was not paid for. This was followed by the failure of Wall Street in September 2008, under Bush II, and the bailout of Wall Street and TARP. The financial institutions, economy and market crashed along with the automobile industry along with its suppliers. In the case of Iraq and Afgan, Bush did not know that setting a deadline forces the parties to come to a settlement or pay the consequences. The cardinal rule in organizing and bargaining, "do not do for others those things they can do for themselves." The lives and resources that were lost in Iraq and Afgan after 10 +/- years and the detrimental impact on the economy will be with us for decades whoever wins the November election. Time magazine, August 20, 2012 page 26 - 32 has a good explanation of what is taking place in the US and the World. Michael Lewis, The Big Short, has a clear explanation of what transpired during the financial collapse in September 2008. Anyone, can look at the charts and see the rebound of the GDP resulting from the stimulus implemented during 2009 and 2010. The market rebounded and many of us who had lost money in the market, if they held from selling, recovered and made great gains during the upturn. However, many individuals, played it safe and were making less than 1% in CD's. jialien,