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To: longnshort who wrote (668048)	8/18/2012 7:02:57 PM
From: puborectalis	Respond to of 1583406

made more money in work and wall street under Obama than any other president......take that,plugged-nickel! US Dollar Fell 92% under Republican Presidents since 1929. The Stock Market has Perfomed 27X Better Under Democrat Presidents

To: longnshort who wrote (668048)	8/19/2012 2:40:07 AM
From: Taro	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583406

Weighing In on Paul Ryan By Vedran Vuk In this presidential election, I lost hope a long time ago. The choice of Paul Ryan as the Republican vice president candidate hasn't restored even a twinkle of that hope. Honestly, I don't think either the Democrats or the Republicans will change a thing for the better. I know that's a fashionable thing to say - for libertarians, especially - but at least in 2008, there might have been some differences between the candidates. McCain likely would not have passed Obamacare, but then again, who knows what else he might have done - especially regarding foreign policy? Despite my apathy at this point on presidential politics, I am very concerned about Paul Ryan's portrayal by the media. At the moment, he is being praised as some sort of free-market intellectual. It's a funny label for the person described in a Politico article, from which these quotations are taken: "In the fall of 2008, Ryan voted for TARP [the $700 billion bank bailout]. Later that year, he voted for loans to help rescue the auto industry, making him one of just 32 Republicans to do so .... "All in all, Ryan's congressional voting record reveals a standard, loyal Republican. He has voted at least 90 percent of the time with his party since he came to Capitol Hill in 1999, according to The Washington Post's votes database. .... "In 2003, Ryan also voted to create the Medicare prescription drug benefit, whose cost - initially estimated at $400 billion over a decade, according to the Los Angeles Times - so rankled conservatives that House Republican leaders had to take extraordinary efforts to pass the legislation by a razor-thin majority..... "Ryan, like many Republicans, also voted to raise the debt limit at least five times during the Bush administration, when such votes were considered routine and uncontroversial." Sure, Ryan is good at presenting charts and figures on the budget and Social Security. These charts and figures are cute, but charts do not make one a principled, free-market intellectual. Your voting record does, and Ryan's isn't pretty. With Romney and Ryan, I'm afraid of the following scenario: The media labels them the "champions of the free market," and then they win the election. After getting into office, the two repeat the same old Republican pattern of spending on wars and their own social pet projects. After four years, the country is in worse shape, and people ask themselves, "Hey, things are even worse now. Whose fault is it? Must be those free-marketeers Romney and Ryan, who've been running the country for the past few years. Let's vote them out for some good old socialism again." If the average Joe is trained to think that capitalism gets the same result as socialism, why vote for free-market policies? In some ways, I'd rather Obama win another term. That way, the average voter can learn a hard lesson about the policies which don't work. After four more years of Obama, there might be enough political will to actually put some real free-market politicians into office rather than the hypocrites competing for the position now. However, if the average voter becomes confused about what the free market really means, then our chances of ever creating a free market become much slimmer. I wish Romney and Ryan the best of luck in another entertaining election year, but I also wish that they would stop discussing the free market if they have no intention of supporting it once in office. There's no need to sully the reputation of a good system with their hypocrisies and inconsistencies.