SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Politics : Mainstream Politics and Economics -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TimF who wrote (24328)8/21/2012 6:19:39 PM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 85487
 
<<“The great virtue of a free market system is that it does not care what color people are; it does not care what their religion is; it only cares whether they can produce something you want to buy. It is the most effective system we have discovered to enable people who hate one another to deal with one another and help one another.”

- Milton Friedman>.

Why didn't free markets end slavery or segregation?

And if you answer because of government, then you are implying we can function without government. It is a circular argument, a tautology if you will, that makes no sense.

This is a stupid discussion, That is all I am trying to get you to see.

We cannot have a government that is run only by capitalism. A govenrment must be a combination of a democracy and capitalism.

A democratic government must be the foundation/struture of society and capitalism should function within that structure.



To: TimF who wrote (24328)8/21/2012 7:43:18 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 85487
 
Quotation of the Day…

by Don Boudreaux on July 31, 2012
in Civil Society, Complexity & Emergence, Cooperation, Hubris and humility, Politics

… is from pages 15 of Milton and Rose Friedman’s essential 1962 tract, Capitalism and Freedom:
What the market does is to reduce greatly the range of issues that must be decided through political means, and thereby to minimize the extent to which government need participate directly in the game. The characteristic feature of action through political channels is that it tends to require or enforce substantial conformity. The great advantage of the market, on the other hand, is that it permits wide diversity. It is, in political terms, a system of proportional representation. Each man can vote, as it were, for the color of tie he wants and get it; he does not have to see what color-the majority wants and then, if he is in the minority, submit.

It is this feature of the market that we refer to when we say that the market provides economic freedom. But this characteristic also has implications that go far beyond the narrowly economic. Political freedom means the absence of coercion of a man by his fellow men. The fundamental threat to freedom is power to coerce, be it in the hands of a monarch, a dictator, an oligarchy, or a momentary majority. The preservation of freedom requires the elimination of such concentration of power to the fullest possible extent and the dispersal and distribution of whatever power cannot be eliminated – a system of checks and balances. By removing the organization of economic activity from the control of political authority, the market eliminates this source of coercive power. It enables economic strength to be a check to political power rather than a reinforcement.
cafehayek.com