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To: Win Smith who wrote (198581)	8/25/2012 9:46:12 AM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541245

Some of the 1% do seem truly interested in living engaged lives, or "textured" lives, as the author put it. Bill Gates comes to mind. He's doing a lot of good in the world. But unfortunately, making life super good for the super rich (and rather crappy for the 99% who are losing ground) and depending on the whims of the rich to realize it might be a good idea if they make it better for the 99%, isn't really a great plan. Lots of times the 1% are going to decide they would really rather be at a polo match, sipping champagne and eating caviar, then doing anything mundane, and possibly icky, like making it better for all those plebes out there, who are poor because they just aren't plucky enough to be one percenters. I can understand why the 1%, or at least some of them, would swallow the idea of the supremacy of the 1%- but why do the poor slobs in the republican party buy it? They are losing earning power. The republicans are talking about eviscerating social structures that give some benefit to these folks. And yet, they appear to want to give the 1% even more. Obviously this is some sort of economic Stockholm syndrome. Pity the fool.

To: Win Smith who wrote (198581)	8/25/2012 11:17:31 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541245

Thanks for the lengthy response about Murray's book.

To: Win Smith who wrote (198581)	8/26/2012 11:42:41 PM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541245

And anyway, really, when you get right down to it, Murray does not really want to do anything for that bottom 80%, because his most bedrock condition is that the bottom 80% deserve their nasty and deteriorating fate. I appreciate your interest. I am really not interested in Murray's motives or personal philosophy as long as his current methodology and statistics are valid. I more interested in whether the conditions he purports to describe in "Coming Apart at the Seams" exist on a macro-scale in America and if so, what can be done, if anything about these conditions.