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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (199019)8/27/2012 11:38:56 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541236
 
And you don't think his opinions have anything to do with the way he colored the landscape?

Ok, I'll make it simple. The thing you seem to be worried about most is out-of-wedlock children. The culture-war Republican plan of attack on that would be what? Abstinence-only sex ed, decreased access to contraception, no insurance coverage of contraception, outlawing abortion, defunding Planned Parenthood. Murray would just add on the patina of getting all judgmental about it. Anything I missed there? Homes for unwed mothers? Orphanages, ala Newt's old, short -lived Boy's Town infatuation?

The liberal or Democratic or not-theological-Republican approach would be mostly the opposite- effective sex education, easy access to contraception, insurance coverage of contraception, access to abortion- as early as possible- and support of Planned Parenthood, which is quite often the only resource readily available to the lesser among us. I certainly can't speak for Will Rogers' party, but I'll add in a rational bit of moral suasion too - coming of age, all young people should be educated about what it means to bring a child into the world, and how, if you do it when you're 16 or 18, possibilities will diminish and responsibilities will increase, dare I say, exponentially.

Now, if you can figure out where a conversation fits in between those two views, let me know. I think talking to the current GOP about it would prove to be somewhat less productive than talking to them about health care reform when the ACA was being drafted.



To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (199019)8/28/2012 3:34:25 AM
From: koan  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 541236
 
You have to lose this out of wedlock stuff. Civilization has passed you by. People are living out of wedlock, right or wrong. You cannot put the cork back in the bottle. You have to ride with the evolution of civilzation and try and keep some balance. All one can do.

We have no idea where humans and technology are going. I would suggest you quit trying to stop it on antiquated moral grounds, or some antiquated ideology.

Humans living self actualized lives simply want to live differently than traditional cultures have prescribed heretofore.