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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (94047)8/29/2012 8:13:10 PM
From: TobagoJack1 Recommendation  Respond to of 218705
 
the place cannot seriously be termed a nation, but a dozen fiefdoms 'ruled' from jakarta by representatives of the same fiefdoms

in the places we go we have to deal with the local 'hajs', they be the folks who had at some juncture attended the hajj, and who are or otherwise somehow intermediate and serve the interest of the powerful locals, together with the military generals in command of each of the localities]

without dealing with the powerful locals one would be a fool to try getting anything done

the corruption is systemic, and much of the time unworkable and ineffective

in the philippines, the corruption is result-based, a better system