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To: RetiredNow who wrote (119464)8/29/2012 6:47:40 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
You said lately I seem to be getting more conservative. I can see your point of view. The reason that it seems that way is that when we were rooting for the Obama candidacy, I was mostly concerned about our oil dependence, too many wars, and Bush's complete lack of fiscal sanity. Obama looked great on paper on each of those issues. However, now my priority that supercedes all others is the economy. And I am first and foremost a fiscal conservative. Always have been on the budget, although I believe in progressive taxation. So now that Obama has doubled down on Bush's terrible Keynesianism, I'm understandably even more perturbed and my fiscal conservatism is coming out in spades.

First of all, I have always thought of you as an R. It really surprised me when you said you were voting for Obama. You have an R perspective.........and it comes thru on most issues.

Secondly, Bush was not Keynes. Bush was an incompetent, non governing presidency that did whatever the money people told him to do. If you compare Obama to Bush again, I will put you on ignore. I am tired of that kind of partisan silliness.

Thirdly, there is a time and place for austerity and now is not the time. My experience with fiscal conservatives........esp if they are GOP........is that they have one track minds with little to no flexibility. What we need to be doing is raising the tax rates on the 1%, cutting defense spending and starting a major infrastructure program while working to reduce the deficit over a ten year plan. Unfortunately, the GOP has become the party of insanity and are totally unwilling to cooperate.

Fourthly, mindless austerity in order to cut the deficit doesn't work during recessionary times. We saw it under Hoover and we are seeing now in Europe. That is fact.

But yes, I'm a fiscal conservative of the very right wing variety. I don't believe in borrowing from China, stealing from the American people by printing money from thin air, spending more than we raise in taxes, or borrowing from my children to pay for things I want today. Those things I think are unethical. They are values-based for me, not opinion based. Not to mention, that I'm a student of history, and history is quite clear on these issues. Every country in history that was a super-power and engaged in these tactics ended up seriously regretting it and all eventually lost their super power status. I hope that doesn't happen to us. We'd better get fiscally responsible soon or history will repeat itself with the US, which in my book is the greatest nation the world has ever known.

All the things you worry about have already happened. No sense crying over spilled milk. We need to look forward.