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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: RetiredNow who wrote (119468)	8/29/2012 5:13:37 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 149317

I agree with you about the no holds bar debate, without moderators etc. However, somehow the focus has shifted to "Is Romney an acceptable alternative" from "Has Obama failed". I also hear some in the press now saying that the undecideds are thinking that "maybe we need to give Obama some more time" seeing that Romney is not an acceptable alternative.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (119468)	8/30/2012 11:43:46 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Paul Ryan’s Speech Was Filled With Economic Inaccuracies: Yahoo!’s Jeff Greenfield There was once a time when lying in a political speech--and getting called out on it by the media--was shameful or embarrassing. *Not anymore.* Now, says Jeff Greenfield, the veteran political analyst and Yahoo! News columnist, the media is held in such low regard by Americans that getting called out for lying merely serves to confirm a widespread belief that the "liberal media" has an axe to grind against conservative politicians. As a result, the whoppers that dominated Republican VP candidate Paul Ryan's convention speech last night will likely not hurt the candidate's standing with Republican voters, says Greenfield. Rather, they'll reinforce the right-wing view that the media is "in the tank" for President Obama. What facts in particular were observers and fact-checkers up in arms about? Well, for starters, there were once again the claims that Obamacare cuts $716 billion of benefits from Medicare and that Paul Ryan wants to preserve Medicare. *The truth is that Obamacare reduces payments to hospitals and doctors* by $716 billion, not benefits*. Also, far from preserving* Medicare, after a 10-year grace period, Romney and Ryan want to radically change it. [Related: Romney Adviser: Yes, We're Going To Slash Taxes Without Increasing The Deficit] Then Ryan blamed S&P's downgrade of U.S. debt on Obama, when S&P explained explicitly that its downgrade was the result of Congressional Republicans--Ryan included--threatening to cause the country to default. [Related: No Matter Who Wins the Election, Don't Expect a Deal on the Budget or Deficit: Kotok] Then Ryan accused Obama of lying to voters in his home state by promising to keep a GM plant open for "hundreds of years" after he was elected, only to have it closed in the first year. The truth is that GM closed the plant before Obama took office. *And so on.* Jeff Greenfield says that none of this will matter to voters, who will just blame the media and its silly "fact-checkers." And he's presumably right. Tell us what you think! http://tinyurl.com/8zhzjre