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To: Kevin K. Spurway who wrote (26237)	11/29/1997 4:46:00 PM
From: Yousef	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572635

Kevin, Re: "I'm not going to argue with what you posted. I am inclined to agree with you ..." It's good that you don't want to argue about my postings ... because you are incorrect, Kevin. I have posted about the disadvantages of using a higher supply voltage for BOTH performance and power. We (on this thread) don't know how closely AMD pushes their 233mhz K6 with respect to power specifications. You can only hope that AMD has enough margin in their specs that process variation doesn't cause power failures. Make It So, Yousef

To: Kevin K. Spurway who wrote (26237)	11/29/1997 5:20:00 PM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572635

<But the reason AMD is two speedgrades behind Intel (besides the fact that the Pentium II thermal brick may give Intel some heat dissipation advantages over socket 7) is AMD won't sell maxed out chips--> Kevin, In my view, the simple fact that AMD is bumping up the vcc to 3.2V is clear indication that they ARE selling maxed out chips. I hope you aren't suggesting that Intel IS selling maxed out chips, because you're way over your head already. The fact is that Intel is reaching 300mhz on their .35u process and AMD isn't. Intel is already in production at .25u and shipping notebook processors at 233mhz. I know AMD is sampling .25u K6's, but that's about all they have really been doing with their 233mhz .35u K6. Little more than sample quantities. Yousef's statements that AMD is 2 speedgrades behind Intel .35u process is based on sound reasoning. AMD investors are lucky to be getting this information because you sure won't get it from the AMD employees who post here. EP