To: rnsmth who wrote (21848 ) 9/15/2012 9:25:50 PM From: zax 2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 32692 Sad Sack, I think of you as I think lying sack would describe you. I am excersizing great restraint in leaving off the additional two word you so clealy deserve . Every one of those cables is a generically made serial adapter (note the URL, genius ). RS232-Serial preceded the USB standard. Apple's sheep-milker port doesn't. You are deliberately misleading, as a serial break out cable isn't required for charging as your post claims. It is intended to support legacy standards and peripherals . At the same time, your iSheep cable picture doesn't show the additional $39 and $29 adapters Apple rips off its customers for to support its own proprietary , legacy standard (also incompatible with legacy standards), and the 15 other dongles that would be requred to actually break out a usable legacy serial port from that (to support many commong peripherals that even flaming fanboys like to use). I know first hand that those black cables are far less inexpensive, all generically made, don't encrypt the data streams and break out additional ports for the expressed purpose of interfacing with inexpensive, generic, widely available peripherals. So, you post pictures of cables intended to break out legacy ports claiming they are required for charging, cables that are trivially reproduced (a key reason those generic cables cost so little ). And you compare open standard to closed, propietary encrypted, obscenely priced, dimwitted fanboy allowance milking standards. There are two cables on the right because of a misstatement of functionality, and more importanly because alternative manufacturers cannot make cables on the right side of that picture by design, so that you, if you are a dumb enough to buy a product using those iSheep cables, have to pay more money. Meanwhile, I could call up Honda connecters and have any of those other cables custom manufactured for me. This is actually important to businesses and savvy consumers, which are smarter than your typical fanboy sheep. Yes, rnsmth. You are a propagandist of the worst order of lies. I'm proud to be able to call you on your B.S. You should stay among the sheep, where you belong. You might fool someone there. You're fooling no one here. Have a nice day. X-D