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Technology Stocks : Microsoft - The Evil empire -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Robert Winchell who wrote (344)	11/30/1997 9:21:00 PM
From: Kal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1600

Why can't you "go back"? Are you saying if you moved to Mac or UNIX from Windows you could go back? If you upgraded to win95 from DOS, could you install DOS on top of the same machine and maintain the settings you had in win 95? Same for moving from win95 to NT? I guess I'll assume you are a contract lawyer, or else you know of some previous case where MS was convicted of illegal business practices. Whether MS was previously convicted is irrelevant to the validity of the current DOJ case and MS current practiced (contract tying one of them). If I ask you: is killing people ok? is selling drugs illegal? Whatever your answer would be, I guess I'll have to assume you're either a criminal lawyer, or a drug law specialist. Netscape has 80% of the browser market, so it must be a dangerous monopoly. Sun has a vast majority of web servers (75-85%), so it must be a dangerous monopoly. I guess it's wrong to be succesfull. Netscape's or sun's market share does not dictate or limit end user's choice of OS or software. That's what MS is trying to do with IE4 and it's other products; to lock you into their line of products (MS standards), and once you make a commitment, it is too expensive to get out. MS as usual realizes industry standards then empraces, extends and deforms them. Why should it follow the industry anyway?

To: Robert Winchell who wrote (344)	11/30/1997 9:37:00 PM
From: Kashish King	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1600

As has been all over the trade news this past week, Netscape has something like 60% to 65% of the browser market. Robert, there are those who have been dragged along by the Java bandwagon, those who understand it, and those who are truly ignorant. Unfortunately you fall into the latter category. Why don't you take some time to compare your beloved COM/VB and Java/Beans first before spouting off that this is all some mindless bandwagon. Better yet, go off and tell me how successful you are at building a COM application that passes objects around like a normal OO system -- not numbers and strings -- and then try and derive some specialized classes after putting in all that effort. Why not examine the morass and tell us if it bears any resemblence to any OO nevermind C++ or whatever language you choose to do it in. Look, you have been duped by Microsoft into thinking that COM is a language independent technology when in facts it's a procedural extension to Visual Basic that turns rational languages into a pile of rotting roadkill. Let's wait to see what eSuite does in the coming weeks and let's wait for the first Intel Java box before we start writing it off based on your personal bias.