To: TobagoJack who wrote (94901 ) 9/23/2012 9:20:12 PM From: Maurice Winn 1 Recommendation Respond to of 217546 Plus ca change... < "The new and conquering Nationalist Government of South China continued last week the slow encirclement by its armies of the great international city of Shanghai. The Nationalist Foreign Minister Eugene Chen, issued a proclamation: "A great and impressive fact must be grasped by all: the Chinese question now is not what Great Britain and other powers may wish to grant China to meet 'the legitimate aspirations of the Chinese'; but the question is what China may justly grant to Great Britain and the other powers." As the Chinese Dragon thus breathed defiance to the world, the British Lion wavered almost ludicrously irresolute last week... " > Similarly, and a generation later, the great international city of Hong Kong is surrounded and occupied by the conquering Nationalist Government armies of China. Interestingly, Japan in the time of Shanghai was active in Manchuria not far away, and similarly now is not a shrinking violet in discussions about just exactly precisely where the border should be. The question might be what China may justly grant to the various powers and individuals of Hong Kong and here and there. But the individuals and sundry powers also do some granting of their own. The "We are the most glorious powerful" mindset is seductive and lethal. Such a defiant heroic stance from the Chinese Dragon back in the day, with the British Lion busily and sensibly evaluating the mania from afar with the carnage of WWII not long before, and the need to have a sustainably sustainable geopolitically doable global community. The Chinese Dragon was perhaps very heroic but ... ooops a daisy, the Japanese military expansion was not so concerned about the wondrous defiance by Eugene of his educational establishment and nurturing English antecedents. It became quite a mess for half a century. With Britain and foreign devils pushed aside in Shanghai, the way was open for Japan to take over. Which they did, until they bit off more than they could chew with the USA when the USA blockaded them. Like sons and daughters of over-bearing fathers, the educated local yokels [Robert Mugabe, Idi Amin, Eugene Chen, and many others] are more interested in power and their own emotionally entrapped Oedipus complex than actually ending up with a really good transition to peace, light, harmony, happiness, health, prosperity, longevity, fun and love. They invariably dress it up as "the legitimate aspirations of we the local yokels" which is code for "I want the money, the power, the girls the perks and big noting high class boss man status". Of course they don't say that. They say the revolution is for the people, but normally, the people end up with the yoke on their backs while their glorious saviours live high on the hog. I don't recall Chairman Mao attending his own re-education in the hutongs of China. He had a great life being big boss man. Oedipus here: Background The psychologist Sigmund Freud (ca. 1921) As a Freudian psychological metaphor describing son–father psychosexual competition for possession of mother, the Oedipus complex derives from the 5th-century BC Greek mythologic character Oedipus , who unwittingly kills his father, Laius , and marries his mother, Jocasta , (cf. Oedipus Rex , by Sophocles , ca. 429 BC). As a psychiatrist , Sigmund Freud (1856–1939) proposed that the Oedipus complex is a universal, psychological phenomenon innate ( phylogenetic ) to human beings, and the cause of much unconscious guilt; Freud thus described the man Oedipus : Mqurice