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To: Mac Con Ulaidh who wrote (121678)9/23/2012 3:36:38 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 149317
 
I disagree some on the glass houses. We had to battle for it, yes, but 1920 is not 2012, and not when that's held out, by some, as a reason not to advance themselves. The point is we did battle, and we did advance towards fuller human rights, and continue to do so, yes. I suppose as long as human beings exist, there will always be a battle for it, to attain and then maintain it. We have pedophiles in this country. Every country does, as all have humans there. But we have laws against it and I consider that an advancement. Do we still need to advance in terms of truly taking it seriously? As in we don't just go against it when it's a stranger or step-father, but when it's a man with power, even if that power is seemingly small, such as a Boy Scout Troop leader. We still allow far too much of it to go on. But if a person supports women's rights here, they're not living in a glass house to speak for women's rights in Egypt and to not do so on the grounds of culture is to fall for the same lines used for centuries here in America about not allowing women rights. If no women in Egypt were interested in not being sexually harassed so much, hey, I guess I'd leave it alone, but that's not the case. If no women thought they should have the right to be President there, I'd leave it alone, but that's not the case. If I didn't speak also for those women, then to me I wouldn't really be for the rights of women, only for rights within my own little world.

I am not saying we can not speak out for women's rights..........I think we should and I think we do set the example. However, I am hearing a lot of criticism of the ME countries these days and calling the Arab Spring BS. What I am saying is that democracy did not happen overnite in this country and for that reason we can't criticize [throw stones at] the ME for not moving as quickly as we would like them to move. They have to find their own way in this process at their pace.

And think about it.........we are a 21st century country, one of the most advanced in the world, and yet, we have many people who believe the earth was formed 6K years ago and that humans walked with dinosaurs. So why does it surprise you that women can't drive in Saudi Arabia? That women are treated as property in most Arab countries? That women get stoned if they commit adultery? The truth is many Muslims think American women are whores because they have sex before marriage. Then again, just 10 years ago, many Americans didn't think women could fight in a war zone.............they needed to stay back and run the support facilities. Many Americans still feel that way. Four years ago, a well known senator said that if gays were allowed to be open in the military it would lead to the complete destruction of the American military. And lets not forget that rape is a serious problem in the American military now that women and men fight together. Huh?

Frankly, I don't think we are in a position to be too critical of the Arabs..............rather I think we need to be patient and to encourage them wherever possible. They will get there but it will be a very slow process. It took the Eastern Europeans nearly 20 years. I think it takes the Arabs longer.