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To: puborectalis who wrote (47372)	9/29/2012 10:55:05 PM
From: TopCat	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71477

"utter nonsense from a nonmedical person" How would you know, doctor Google?

To: puborectalis who wrote (47372)	9/30/2012 7:56:03 AM
From: maceng2	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 71477

utter nonsense from a nonmedical person Really. Well I'm a non medical person as well. I am a scientist and a fully trained technologist though... and I need to lose a few pounds. So... there seems to be a stipulation that you need some sort of medical training & qualification to talk purposefully on the matter of using diet to lose body fat? If 1000 obese patients with low or average income go to their general practitioners and ask for treatment or guidance in becoming healthier specimens by losing body fat, what will be the success rate after, say, one year? You are welcome to express your own opinion on the matter but my "guesstimate" will be the same success rate for common cold treatments and that for lower back pain. i.e. less then 10% and maybe much lower. These two illnesses are the most common causes of lost days at work. I have suffered both these illnesses and can talk with some authority on the matter as a self educated ex patient. A fully qualified and trained neurosurgeon did help but the remedy is not generally recognised amongst the profession. My view is the matter of successful recovery from my condition is part science and part religion. Aspects of both branches of knowledge are important. Belief is the most important aspect imho, and yes... I really do know that. -g- So GZ's opinion and experience is welcome, I do interact closely with my GP, I think such practice is recommended, but (imho) one thing medically trained and qualified people should never do is get above themselves in dispensing the religion of whats what... unless it is asked for. I hope you are not offended by my comments on the matter. Likewise, I will be carrying this subject to the other thread.