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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (122094)	10/1/2012 12:51:49 AM
From: zeta1961	Respond to of 149317

Ya, Chinu and Ted. I think that the GOP paid politico.com to publish that piece...

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (122094)	10/1/2012 1:17:16 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Respond to of 149317

More from Balochistan - also, China has been granted, by Pakistan, rights to run the port in Gwadar, the jewel of the area in terms of ports. That's not going over well in Balochistan. This seems to be really heating up, though not sure how much a chance people there have. tribune.com.pk Balochistan is in a state of war: Talal Bugti By Ema Anis Published: October 1, 2012 JWP president Talal Bugti meets Nawaz Sharif, discusses Balochistan situation. PHOTO: PPI/FILE LAHORE: Jamhoori Watan Party (JWP) President Talal Bugti met Pakistan Muslim League (PML-N) President Nawaz Sharif on Monday, where both the party chiefs discussed the current law and order situation in Balochistan. Speaking to the media after the meeting, Bugti stated that Balochistan is in a state of war and Frontier Corps is responsible for the deteriorating law and order situation. “Four gas fields were discovered in Marri Agency, which has been declared a no-go area. Sardar Bugti had given permission that gas be extracted from the fields to improve the situation in Balochistan as well as all of Pakistan. But the FC and other security agencies came and took over the area. In the name of security, they are looting billions of rupees.” Bugti added that each time the Supreme Court points towards the FC in the law and order case, the FC starts attacking areas. “We have eyewitnesses of those attacks,” he stated. He also thanked the Supreme Court for its efforts in stabilising the province and for hearing cases against the FC. Sharif, who also spoke to the media, said that if the situation in Balochistan is to be improved then the process should begin right away. “Upcoming elections in the province are a ray of hope. They should be fair and transparent.” He mentioned the All Parties Conference which was summoned at the Prime Minister House to discuss the Balochistan situation, “but no true Baloch leadership was present in the meeting”. Commenting on how Talal Bugti was not allowed to hold funeral prayers for his father, Sharif said that these situations lead a person into becoming a traitor. “But it is not the fault of the traitors, it is the fault of those who turn the patriots into traitors.”

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (122094)	10/1/2012 2:17:42 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Respond to of 149317

And another from Balochistan - I know I'm harping on it a bit, but I see this as a foreign policy issue going forward. At least I hope it is, since I support, very much, what the people there are trying to do. And as a strategic issue, I don't see how it won't be because of the port. Alexander the Great wanted to reach that port but he got bogged down in India. Gwadar: Hameed Baloch a member of Gwadar Press Club was abducted from karwaat Gwadar A local journalist and a member of Gwadar Press Club Hameed Baloch has been abducted from karwaat area of Gwadar when he was coming back from Dasht Beri after attending a wedding ceremony of a relative. In a statement issued by Gwadar Press Club has termed it a part of that continuation of abductions in which social & political activists and journalists are being abducted by the intelligence agencies on almost daily basis. Hameed Baloch's family and friends told that they have investigated the incident and they are sure that Pakistani Paramilitary Forces have abducted him. Gwadar Press Club have appealed to the higher government authorities to release Hameed Baloch as soon as possible otherwise they will start an unstoppable demonstrations all over Balochistan. voiceofbalochistan.com

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (122094)	10/1/2012 3:01:00 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 149317

Did you see who the writer of that piece is? Yes, I know. I read it in the afternoon and ignored it. You're smart........thinking about it only brings on the jitters.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (122094)	10/2/2012 1:20:40 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Respond to of 149317

Seems Afghanistan isn't interested in being AfPak. It's really a shame Pakistan has nukes, cause otherwise just work to separate Baloshistan, help Afghanistan to hold them off, and let that little place left rot if that's what they want (tho I'd feel bad for Lehore): Afghanistan-Pakistan Border Tensions Flare Amid Bombardment Claims Afghan border policemen discovered a cache of ammunitions and missiles at a weapons cache in Goshta district, Nangarhar province, east of Kabul, Afghanistan, police officials said, January 14, 2012. Sharon Behn October 02, 2012 ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN — Afghan forces say they are ready to retaliate against Pakistan for cross-border shelling along the country's northeastern border. Analysts in both countries are extremely concerned about what the situation means for the future of the region. Afghanistan Defense Minister General Bismillah Mohammadi said that if diplomacy fails to stop Pakistan’s alleged shelling of Afghan soil, his forces are ready to react accordingly. “Afghan forces,” he said, “are ready to sacrifice their lives and properties to defend their homeland,” said Mohammadi. Trouble at Durand Line The general was speaking to a gathering of elders in the border district of Goshta. According to local officials, Afghan residents were being asked by Pakistani border forces to leave their homes along the disputed border known as the Durand Line. Attacks Continue on Afghanistan-Pakistan Border ??Mohammadi’s statements were echoed by Afghan Interior Minister Mujtaba Patang and taken one step further by the Nangarhar province's Governor Gul Agha Sherzai. “We have decided by ourselves: if someone fires on us, we will return fire,” said Sherzai. Pakistan has denied it is shelling Afghanistan. Islamabad has said Pakistani military forces have launched several offensives inside its border against militants, however, who then have escaped into Afghanistan. The Durand Line border, established in 1893 by India’s then-colonial ruler Britain, is one of many contentious issues between Islamabad and Kabul. Simmering disagreement Afghan military expert and former deputy interior minister General Abdul Hadi Khalid said that as long as international forces are in Afghanistan, he doubts the border dispute will erupt into a conflict. “If Afghan forces, especially border forces, react against the attacks, I think it does not mean the two countries fall into military conflict. But at least it is a response to the interference of Pakistan,” said Khalid. Once the coalition combat forces leave, Khalid said, Islamabad would likely continue its support of Afghan insurgents, but would change its tactics. Both U.S. and Afghan officials say militants who attack international forces inside Afghanistan take refuge in Pakistan. continued... voanews.com