To: tejek who wrote (122217 ) 10/2/2012 3:07:54 PM From: Mac Con Ulaidh Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317 The women I am speaking about are lesbian (not the male term gay - not snipping at you on that, but it's an issue of mine). The thing this is about is that more areas are open to people now, including gays (males). We don't have to move to large cities if we don't want to, and we can move away from them if that's our desire. I prefer the weather in TX, though I miss the colors of autumn and the hills. It's more relaxed where I am, though that speaks to one town vs one other town, not a state, nor nation. Also, I'm the only white person here. I find that relaxing. It's pretty evenly split between Latino and Black, except for me. Atlanta has one of the largest and most thriving and growing middle class Black populations. It can be a guide for other cities. Moving for ideology can be a mixed bag. I reckon it works for some. For many glbts it's not ideology, it's survival, a very different thing. You go to SF for the #'s, because the #'s give safety and community. As for the straight white people I knew there, who voted like me and presumably felt as I did? All too often I found a shallow alliance when push came to shove. I'd just as soon be elsewhere, aside from the community of my own. Though I know with my father, even in Austin, ideology is an issue in terms of his mixing more with people at the retirement home. When he worked, we, and then him & mom, lived all over. He knew enough men at work to mix with people with similar views about life and people. In AL, he didn't make any new friends outside of a couple of men at his Methodist church (a bastion of more liberal thinking), and he hasn't at the retirement home. Too many old white men who watch FOX news and spout the talking points. And don't dare talk against LGBTs to him, the father of two lesbians (one being rather mixed gender wise) whom he loves and respects. For people able to make the choice in the way you did, yes, that can be an issue that matters and makes the choice.