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To: arvitar who wrote (438)	10/3/2012 7:19:30 PM
From: imaba	Respond to of 621

hey they do look a like!! jmho

To: arvitar who wrote (438)	10/3/2012 10:36:42 PM
From: Rawnoc	Respond to of 621

Sticking your fingers in your ears and shutting your eyes stopped working as a successful debate tactic in elementary school. By the way -- rigth at the top of the document in all caps, bold, and centered it says: JUDGMENT Then it lists all the freedoms and restrictions the defendants LOST -- FOR LIFE via court ORDER. I would say you can email the defendants and ask them for more info, but the judge gave a judgment that included a COURT ORDER that the defendants for the rest of their lifetimes can't even talk about anything related in the plantiffs in any way whatsoever, even by private email. This is victory? Having lifetime muzzle? lol

To: arvitar who wrote (438)

10/10/2012 12:10:20 AM

From: Rawnoc

Respond to of 621

Dead wrong. Court order item 1, setcion (a) mentions nothing about defamatory comments -- it's zero comments whatsoever lifetime gag oder it says, and I quote:

"...any comments, statements, questions, or communcationns of any kind whatsoever involving the Plantiffs..."

Clear as day.

To: jimmenknee who wrote (28776)	10/9/2012 10:54:46 PM
From: zzzogly	Read Replies (1) of 28779

"Ultimately JBI got the order for the Defendants to cease communicating..." Let me tell you why I think that order is vacant token. It orders that defendants or anyone acting on their behalf "are hereby restrained from discussing, disseminating, distributing, or communicating, in any manner whatsoever, defamatory comments with respect to or in any way related to the Plaintiffs". First, it doesn't say that the defendants ever made any defamatory comments. Second, it's only saying that the defendants can't do something that civil law already says they can't do. It isn't adding any requirement that would constrain their behavior beyond what the law currently does, and that doesn't already apply to everyone else in the world in addition to the defendants. Hence to my understanding, it is nothing more than an empty gesture by the judge (possibly contrived by JB's lawyer so his client could claim some kind of victory to those who don't read the order carefully), since nothing is gained or lost by the defendants, or changed, as a result of the order. I'm not a lawyer, nor do I have any legal education, and would be interested if someone with that background could give an educated opinion.