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To: Road Walker who wrote (123742)10/14/2012 1:33:33 PM
From: tejek1 Recommendation  Respond to of 149317
 
The history of the United States can be read as one such virtuous circle. But as the story of Venice shows, virtuous circles can be broken. Elites that have prospered from inclusive systems can be tempted to pull up the ladder they climbed to the top. Eventually, their societies become extractive and their economies languish.

That was the future predicted by Karl Marx, who wrote that capitalism contained the seeds of its own destruction. And it is the danger America faces today, as the 1 percent pulls away from everyone else and pursues an economic, political and social agenda that will increase that gap even further — ultimately destroying the open system that made America rich and allowed its 1 percent to thrive in the first place.


What's frustrating is that its very hard to discuss this subject with conservatives or people with a conservative bent..........esp in this country. The name Karl Marx invokes so much hatred and fear that its nearly impossible to raise some of his useful sentiments without confronting a wall of anger.

The other part of this...........unlike Venice, inclusiveness takes on racial tones in this country. Its not just about allowing social mobility for the lower classes but for the non white lower classes. I think it just compounds the fear.

This is the issue that most concerns me...........this issue of inclusiveness vs exclusiveness is another thorn in the blue state/red state divide. That schism continues to grow larger.



To: Road Walker who wrote (123742)10/14/2012 10:51:16 PM
From: denizen48  Respond to of 149317
 
Other than hitting the lottery, education & hard work have been the ladders to success in the USA. I think that the size of our student loan debt is scandalous; it shows how low we've sunk as a society.
So why did the VP debate agonize over an incident in Libya, yet never touch this issue?
Libya, really? I've got three kids paying off their student loans at usury rates with the government making sure they'll never be able to declare bankruptcy.