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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Paul V. who wrote (147392)	10/28/2012 6:30:58 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	7 Recommendations Respond to of 224723

Dan, is the problem the unions or management who do not have the skills to cope with the unions. The problem is with the unions. Management has the option of replacing union workers with cheap labor or with automation. Once the union workers are out on the street, they have no other option except to whine about the unfair practices of the greedy 1% and otherwise take on the victim role so that they can start being parasites off of the government entitlement programs.

To: Paul V. who wrote (147392)	10/28/2012 7:57:26 PM
From: DanDerr	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224723

The problem is definitely on both sides of the table. But Unions have become so self-centered, their leadership so corrupt, and their short and long term costs so outrageous (yes, due to lousey negotiations by management) that they are a detriment to the organization which they purport to support. And before you mention it, NOT ALL unions are such. BTW, my comments are from observation of industry, Sate and Local, and Fed Unions over the years. And also 2 years sitting across that Negotiating Table with the AFGE who represented about 3,000 blue and white collar workers in my Command. Thankfully, I had a very experienced SES to do the heavy lifting.