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To: koan who wrote (125717)	10/29/2012 9:57:18 PM
From: RetiredNow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

koan, do you know when college started costing so much? I'll tell you. We can trace it back to when the government started their student loan programs. In my father's day, he could work while going to college and he could pay it off, while in school. When I went, I had to get loans, but was able to pay it off within 5 years of graduating. When my kids go, I'm going to have to spend several times the amount most Americans retire with to get them out with no loans. I say end the government's involvement in the free markets. This is again socialism at work. It distorts every market it is allowed to proliferate in.

To: koan who wrote (125717)	10/30/2012 1:28:02 PM
From: pcstel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

They can both understand a delima like illegal immigration and how difficult a problem it is, unlike you. Well now that is a terrible thing to say. Are you always this BITTER? We haven't even discussed illegal immigration and you are already making derogatory comments, Education should be free, but my ex and I paid for it. Sorry to hear about you and your ex-wife, or domestic partner as it may be. Sorry your kids were raised in a disfunctional family unit. What a shame. Me and the Mrs's just celebrated our 27th wedding anniversary. Still in love like day one. But, given your apparent disposition and BITTERNESS, who could blame her.? First you say.... Especially those from conservative (spare the rod and spoil the child) families who half the time indoctrinate their kids with some sort of dogmatic bullshit, which the kids have to break free of because the parents were too lazy to learn anything themselves to teach their kids. But then say.... But they have no debt. If they had gone in Alaska it would have been quite cheap. But they needed to get out So the question that begs to be asked here is.. Since you claim to have raised your kids in a great disfunctional household, then why did they have to escape 1000's of miles away? Were they running from something? Perhaps things were not as grand as the picture you paint in your mind? Denial is a strong emotion. Our son lives 10 miles away, and comes over for lunch after Church on Sunday. I wouldn't be too happy with a phone call... Home Schooling allowed us to take our son on the road with me as I traveled for business. By age 14, our son, had sat on camels gazing at the Great Pyramids of Giza, walked the grounds at the Blue Mosque in Istanbul, hiked the Inca Trail in Peru, and played in the waters of the Maldives. Notice I use the term 'our son', not "my daughters?", Talk about spare the rod and spoil the child.. A free pass to a top university, for multiple degrees sounds like spoil the child to me. They nust have "wanted out" pretty bad to walk away from that cheap education in Alaska. Our son lived at home durung College at a two year school. As it turns out, I started teaching him programming at age 9, and with 12 years of experience at age 21, he landed a job making nearly six figures. As you can tell, our son suffered greatly growing up in a Conservative household, with family values, where they don't feel the need to "run away" at first opportunity. Must have been that "enlightenment" thing. And so it goes, PCSTEL