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To: Doren who wrote (143914)10/29/2012 11:37:03 PM
From: Doren  Respond to of 213177
 
> I have a friend who is a brilliant Java programmer. His idea of a great design is a command line. He's clueless about usabilty.

I was just thinking, I had a Java class in college. Very complex. My expert Java friend helped me. I don't consider myself a programmer, but even though I KNOW for a fact Don is an expert (I met him when I was a IT recruiter), I ended up figuring out much of stuff that even he couldn't figure out.

I'll stop bragging now. Suffice it to say I would NOT like to make a living writing Java.



To: Doren who wrote (143914)10/30/2012 12:04:36 AM
From: Sr K  Respond to of 213177
 
For example my library has changed their user log in from 1 page to 5 pages with a pop up page.


Many libraries operated like they were a free resource. Now they look at revenue opportunities or encouraging contributions. Are some of pages 2-5 seeking revenue, or advertising an event, or promoting greater use of the facilities?

Or for access verification?



To: Doren who wrote (143914)10/30/2012 12:07:31 AM
From: neolib1 Recommendation  Respond to of 213177
 
I agree with much of what you say about design, and I don't know to what degree Ive has influenced the software UI at Apple.

But I do know that Ive, Cook, and anyone else at Apple could have (and should have if they were upper management) played with their own products before releasing them. I'm pretty certain the decision to ditch GoogleMaps was made by Cook, so he should have had an interest in knowing if his alternate plan was working or not before finding out from customers that it was not. And as I stated before, I think a substantial part of how upper managers at Apple could screw up at that magnitude is because they think that something that looks so beautiful, must in fact be good, without bothering to try and use it. Apple's fans suffer a bit from the same problem. They are buying a fashion statement, not something with utility. So Ive's signature is worth a lot for what the average Apple customer wants. Its just it collides with reality now and again when it dawns on the user that what the thing looks like and how it feels in your hand, is in fact secondary at times to other functions.