To: joseffy who wrote (681653 ) 10/30/2012 12:17:42 PM From: Brumar89 1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1574509 We don't know all the details of the Benghazi attack because the survivors (20-30 or more?) are being hidden away from the press. Probably some of the details are wrong because of the information blackout. In particular, I don't think Woods and Doherty were the sole defenders ... just the only two whose names were released because they were killed. Here's a timeline someone has tried to put together. Benghazi timeline, sourced From geoff B: “pieced together from 3 main footnoted sources listed and some others with one speculative comment by myself.” Geoff Local time. {Washington time} 7:30 pm {1:30 pm} Ambassador has final meeting of the day with Turkish diplomat. [1]8:00 pm {2:00 pm} Ansar al-Shariah militants setting up checkpoints down away from compound.[2] [3]8:30 pm {2:30 pm} Diplomat leaves Consulate compound. Everything quiet on street in front of compound . [1]8:00-8:50 pm approx. {2:00 -2:50 pm} Ansar al-Shariah militants are about 150 strong and have heavy machine guns mounted on pickup trucks . [3] No protests of the film but some of them lead local youths in chants against the film. [3] Locals agree that this was a pre-planned action with the film used only as a local cover for the action. [3] Some of the militants wearing Afgan-style tunics. [2] [3] 9:00 pm {3:00 pm} Ambassador retires to bed in Building “C”. Sean Smith and 4 security agents are in Building “C” and one security agent in the TOC. 4 – “17th February Brigade” guards are at the entrance gate eating. [2] [1] Five other local guards are in the compound, [2] at least one at the rear gate. [2] 9:40 pm -10:40 pm {3:40 – 4:40 pm} The attack on the consulate begins. [1], [3] 10-12 attackers climb over front gate and then open it for all to enter. [2] Attack comes from the front and one side. [3] Agents hear gunfire and explosions. [1] Agent in TOC sees men flowing through gate into the compound. [1] One agent in building “C” wakes Ambassador and he, the Ambassador and Sean Stevens [mistake: It's Sean Smith.] enter the security area of Building “C” and lock it up. [1] 2 other agents go to Building “B” to get their gear and 1 agent goes to the TOC. The two after suiting up try to head back but are blocked by armed men and so go back to “B” and barricade themselves in there,[1] in the cantina in “B” for about an hour. [2] The 4 guards at the front gate hear gunfire and explosions and look out gate to see what is going on and see a large armed group headed toward them so they close the gate. Three of them make for Building “C” and one heads for Building “B”. [2] The one heading to “B” is shot in the leg, beaten and awakens at the hospital later.[2] The three who head to “C” one is captured by the pool and escorted out of the compound.[2] The other two hole up in a laundry room near the pool but are found, beaten and then led out of the compound at the front gate where they are beaten again then released. [2] One guard from the rear gate tried to get into “B” but was locked out and took refuge behind some sandbags at the TOC where he was found, beaten, and taken to the front gate beaten again and then released.[2] Two guards were in the Guards building, shot one militant and finally took refuge on the roof when the Guards building was burnt.[2] Attackers burn Guards building and cars around it. They then enter “C” and finding the security area locked torch the building with diesel oil. They enter “B” but can’t break into where the two agents are barricaded. They also attempt to enter the TOC but fail. In Building “C” the smoke drives the 3 there first to a window they can open and then to one where they can open the grill to get out. The security agent goes first to check for danger. He is taking fire. When he goes back to the window the other two, Sean and the Ambassador, have disappeared. He fails to find them.[1] Attempts are made to find them and succeed in finding Sean’s body but not the ambassador who is discovered later in the central closet refuge. [1] [2]My speculation on this part. Since “C” was closed up except for the front door area, which is what the militants set on fire, smoke would have only slowly crept into the rest of the area. When the 3 opened a window in a bathroom smoke would get drawn to that window as a draft would form. When they next opened another and the grill to escape the same effect happened making the smoke in that room worse. when the agent went out he started taking fire. I propose that this gunfire made Sean and the Ambassador draw away from the window and that Sean (in another early report he was said to have been shot) got hit by gunfire and couldn’t get away from the increased smoke while the Ambassador was able to crawl back to the enclosed central closet area and close the door. The draft would then tend to lessen the smoke where he was while where the gunshot Sean was it was worse and he rapidly succumbed. This is not a blame thing as all three were in a horrible environment where they could hardly see or breathe and smoke like that of diesel and burning furniture is not just poisonous but mind altering too. February 17th militia at their main base 3.2 k away hear the explosions and 18 of them in 5 trucks drive toward the compound but are driven back by the militants at a roadblock. They back off to a distance and engage in a 90 minute firefight.[2] They get more reinforcement from their group and set up a perimeter, roadblocks of their own surrounding the compound. [2] The militants draw back from their own roadblocks into villas for cover. [2] The two agents in “B” and one from the “TOC” learn from the agent at “C” that “C” is on fire and the Ambassador and Sean are still inside and they take an armored car to move from “B” to “C”. They search inside “C”, find Sean’s body but not the Ambassador. Around 10:30 pm {4:30 pm} a 6 man group in a BMW sedan and a Mercedes Benz SUV from the Annex. They encounter the February 17th blockades and the two groups join up to enter the Consulate compound. [2][1] After being joined by the agents from “B”, the “TOC” and the one from “C” they attempt to find the Ambassador trapped in “C”. but can’t find the him either. [1][2] They are taking fire all the while and finally determine that they must leave an go back to the Annex. [1][2] All this time since 9:40 the one agent in the TOC has been in constant contact with the Annex, the Embassy in Tripoli, the Libyan authorities, and Washington calling all the while for help . 11:00 pm {5:00 pm} They exit the Consulate compound taking fire from the militants forces who have roadblocked the roads. Eventually they make their way to the Annex which is also under fire from rifles and RPGs intermittently. Midnight {6:00 pm} Annex fight continues. Militants have left Consulate compound and looters have moved in. Libyan Military Police officer discovers Ambassador barely alive. He and February 17th people take him to the hospital but he dies of smoke inhalation later. [1], [2] 1:00 am {7:00 pm} Annex fight continues 2:00 am {8:00 pm} Annex fight continues. Eight Marines from the Embassy in Tripoli arrive at the airport.[2] They have trouble getting transport to the Annex and so are delayed about 45 min. 3:00 am {9:00 pm} Annex fight continues. Marines arrive at Annex. [1] [2] Annex starts taking more fire. [2] 3:20 am {9:20 pm} February 17th Brigade commander calls for reinforcements so as to be able to evacuate everyone to the airport. 3:40-45 am {9:40 – 45 pm} 100 members of February 17th Brigade arrive and start securing the area around the Annex [2]4:00 am {10:00 pm} Annex fight continues. Four 82mm mortar rounds are fired at the Annex. The first lands just outside of it and the next three land in the Annex. Two on the North building roof where two [ex] SEALs, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty , have been engaging the militants using a light machine gun (SAW). They use a laser designator to paint the mortar crew. The mortar rounds that land on the roof kill them both.[2] 4:30-45 {10:30 – 45 pm} A Libyan colonel arrives and all prepare to leave for the airport. 5:00 am {11:00 pm} Arriving at the airport they find that the plane the Marines came in is too small to fit everybody so the Marines stay behind with the the bodies of Doherty, Smith and Woods. 6:00 am {Midnight} The Marines find out that the body of Ambassador Stevens is at the hospital and some go to the hospital to retrieve his remains. They bring him back to lay with the other three fallen. 10:00 am {4:00 am} Marines transport arrives and they take the bodies back to Tripoli. Sources: [1] state.gov [2] world.time.com [3] bigstory.ap.org proteinwisdom.com