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To: Ali Chen who wrote (26333)	12/2/1997 1:57:00 AM
From: Yousef	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572778

Ali, Re: "The dual independent bus in the P-II is a big relief for internal data traffic ... Please, show your qualification to us, pathetic screwdrivers." Ali, now you seem to be discussing the superior design of the PII ... As I said, the 233mhz K6 and 233mhz PII are very similar in performance. To put it so "pathetic screwdrivers" understand, "It doesn't matter if you have 3 on-ramps connected to 2 freeways OR 2 on-ramps connected to 3 freeways ... if the same number of cars are flowing each hour !!" So you see Ali, frequency of operation is the determining quantity both for performance and customer acceptance. Make It So, Yousef

To: Ali Chen who wrote (26333)	12/2/1997 12:48:00 PM
From: Petz	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1572778

Ali, thanks for confronting Yousef with his non-sensical repetitions about Intel's Idsat being higher and therefore all its processors are better. As we know, the only processor Intel has that is faster than a K6-233 is the Pentium II. I'm now convinced the ONLY reason they can get that CPU to 300 MHz is the extremely high current they pass through the transistors. A P2-300 (not counting the L2 cache, which is another 1.4 amps) draws 66% more current than a K6-233, although its clock rate is only 29% higher. The fact is, any semi company can design an FET with any Idsat they like, if they can come up with a thermal scheme to keep the chip from self-destructing. Intel chose the quick and dirty approach of max-ing out Idsat at the expense of requiring the expensive SLOT 1 packaging. Then they called SLOT 1 a feature rather than a kluge, and the majority of techno-lemmings believed them. Petz