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To: LindyBill who wrote (521081)	11/9/2012 10:00:06 AM
From: MulhollandDrive	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793917

you know, bill, when i read these 'inside baseball' types of election analysis, you have to question do these people really believe their own BS? these people think 'project orca' lost the election? talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees.... this election illustrated one thing and one thing only.... people (voters) knew quite well who obama was and what he represented....and they voted in the AFFIRMATIVE....meaning give us MORE.... i spoke of this months ago and it was always my concern, speaking of my fear that the F$A tipping point had been reached and the only hope was that a romney type candidate could reach the moderates and independents in bigger numbers....well he did... the only problem with that analysis is that the demographic changed far more dramatically than most of the pundits really understood people are scared $hitless and they voted for the safety HAMMOCK this F$A voting block has been building for decades under both republican and democrat administrations....goes all the way back to FDR, expanded by LBJ and quite frankly nixon, ford, and even RR blew the gov't benefits bubble mightily ('earned' income tax credit, anyone?) so what the voters said was 'give me more', and any candidate perceived as standing in the way of that, with a few minor exceptions like tom cruz, got slaughtered.... and btw, one more point that i never see discussed.... what we are witnessing now is the bitter fruit of MORAL HAZARD unleashed under the BUSH administration beginning with the bankster and WS bailouts..... i cannot tell you the number of forums i read and even individuals i speak with who ask (rightfully so?) WHERE'S MY BAILOUT? these are the people who are still working, perhaps losing their homes, earning less take home pay, just scrimping to make ends meet....these people are rightfully outraged at the trillions that were borrowed, printed, and yes, stolen just to keep the 'fat cats' (wall street firms, mega banks, unions) afloat so yeah, they're not buying the 'austerity' message and are saying, nope, you rich people were the beneficiaries of the bailouts and now it's payback time as obama rightly said....they're voting for revenge so sit back and watch (hint: see the european template) and like doug casey said in a recent interview posted here....pity the fool who presides over the coming economic collapse.....romney should thank his lucky stars, maybe 'project orca' was be design (lol)

To: LindyBill who wrote (521081)	11/9/2012 10:03:26 AM
From: DMaA	2 Recommendations Respond to of 793917

The people who don't think this stuff is important should read this reader's comment to the story you posted: James Gale · University of Michigan I volunteered as a "deployed attorney" in Iowa. On Monday, when we at the Scott County Victory Center saw John's entry about Orca, we were shocked. By then, everybody on the ground knew that Orca was a disaster in the making. The county organization, with much reluctance, had abandoned its traditional GOTV process in favor of Orca. By Monday, they knew that Orca had failed. There would be no real election-day GOTV effort in place. The county leaders, to put it mildly, were bitter toward the supposedly clever and sophisticated crowd from "Boston." To make matters worse, in the midst of the failure, the national leaders of the Romney campaign decided to trumpet Orca's supposed virtues. This made the local leaders even more unhappy. Volunteers across the country (or at least in Iowa) realized at that point that the people in Boston were either lying about Orca or were so incompetent that they did not realize that Orca had already failed beyond repair. EIther way, this was dispiriting, to say the least. And it's never a good idea, particularly on the eve of an election, to dampen the spirits of the most dedicated volunteers. It all felt like a very bad omen.