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To: Robin Plunder who wrote (96493)	11/11/2012 11:21:38 AM
From: bart13	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 219648

The answer is contained in the question, as usual?

To: Robin Plunder who wrote (96493)	11/12/2012 9:14:01 PM
From: Robin Plunder	1 Recommendation Respond to of 219648

So, if no one thought Kant had found a proper beginning for philosophy, why did philosophers spend the next 200 years trying to follow his lead of placing the foundation of knowledge within consciousness, rather than in the existence of an external world? The problem with identifying observation of the external world as the origin of knowledge is that it undermines the value of the supernatural...if truth comes from observation of this world, then any possible supernatural world becomes subordinate, a secondary issue...but God cannot be a secondary issue. This is why Aristotelians, and those who, in general, looked to our material world for knowledge, were persecuted for hundreds of years..Peter Abelard, Roger Bacon, Galileo, Copernicus, Giordano Bruno and many more, probably many that we have never heard of, as their lives ended before they were able to make a major accomplishment. The Spanish Inquisition began in 1492 and extended to 1853...right into our relatively 'modern' times. Andrew Dickson White, a co-founder of Cornell University, and the author of ‘Fiat Money in France’, as known to many on this list, also wrote a book called ‘ A History of the Warfare of Science With Theology in Christendom’ based on a series of lectures he gave at Cornell. Even in 1880’s America, he felt that religion had far too strong a grip on the pursuit of knowledge, and his main reason for founding Cornell was to provide a path for a search for truth, unimpeded by supernatural pre-suppositions. Both of these books are available on amazon….lots of detailed historical evidence in this book on religion, covering a period of hundreds of years…well worth a look…truth is definitely stranger than fiction… Allan Bloom wrote ‘The Closing of the American Mind in ~1990, lamenting the fact that his profession has never been able to characterize how we create knowledge…and yet the answer is all around us, in perhaps the ultimate mania…commitment to the supernatural… Message 28540781 "Every argument for God and every attribute ascribed to him rests on a false metaphysical premise. None can survive for a moment on a correct metaphysics. For instance, God is infinite. Nothing can be infinite, according to the Law of Identity. Everything is what it is, and nothing else. It is limited in its qualities and its quantity: it is this much, and no more. 'Infinite' as applied to quantity does not mean does not mean 'very large': it means 'larger than any specific quantity'. That means: no specific quantity - ie, a quantity without identity. This is prohibited by the Law of Identity....No argument will get you from this world to a supernatural world. No reason will lead you to a world contradicting this one. No method of inference will enable you to leap from existence to a super-existence."( Philosophy of Objectivism Lecture Series, #2, L. Peikoff, 1976.) rp