To: Robin Plunder who wrote (96563 ) 11/15/2012 9:27:05 AM From: Maurice Winn 4 Recommendations Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 219434 It does seem to be very difficult to understand why life, liberty and property might be any use at all. Unless it's other people's being taken to provide goodies to the takers. <.I was looking for him to be much more articulate and 'radical', in establishing the intellectual foundations for life, liberty and property. > It is difficult to see why people would want to own things, themselves, personally, when they could just happily share all that stuff that just comes out of factories somewhere and falls from the sky like manna from heaven. It's weird that people would want to decide for themselves how they live and what they do. The intellectual foundations of that should be a PhD topic or something so somebody can figure it out. China, USSR, East Germany, Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, North Korea, Hippie Communes and other happy hipsters have all happily shared all the goodies and spread the wealth around equitably. Even though they did it right, they must have somehow got the intellectual foundations not quite right coz they turned to Hell on Earth. Hopefully the USSA will do a better job of it than the USSR. Obama and his hordes of enthusiastic followers are about to find out. They are going to start with Free Doctors. Hooray. No more paying money. No more having to get a job and boring stuff. Just show up and get the goodies. Those boring life liberty and property people can't explain what that's about so to Hell with them. Personally, I think I have understood the complex concepts of freedom, personally owned property and voluntary interaction, but I'm a registered genius; others are not so able as me to work it out. <he made very similar comments at the second debate between the republican contenders...and it really fell flat, > I can see why: Paul: "Get a job, no minimum pay, save your money, buy things sensibly, look after your children, don't take other people's stuff. The government people are going to be fired" Obama: "Look at all those rich banksters and wealthy wealthsters taking all the goodies for themselves. YOU should get your share. I will personally give you free doctors, food, cars, and spread the wealth around to YOU. I will stop the oceans from rising. You will have HOPE. WE have been waiting for US. Now WE are in charge and we are going to have loads of stuff Made in China by those people who should be working for us for really low pay. We are going to CHANGE things around Washington. We have shovel ready money and we are gonna shovel it out to you." Let's face it, the intellectual foundations of Obama's plans are pretty good. I can feel leg tingles now. How can anyone argue against free stuff? Mqurice