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To: Road Walker who wrote (145125)11/16/2012 11:41:17 AM
From: manalagi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 213172
 
,What happens to Apple's Board of Directors? Aren't they supposed to represent shareholder's interest? The stock has been hammered big time dropping 200+ points in just a month? Apple management should figure out that Apple's P/E is less than 12, and compare that to FB which is up 6% today and has a P/E of around 290.

That reminds me of a mother who told his grown up unemployed son just sitting in front of the computer playing games: "do something. just do something, get out of the house, sell rocks, or move neighbor's lawn, or whatever. just do something".

This is exactly what Apple management has to do something: announce stock buy back while it is cheap, sell put options, increase in dividend, or announce stock split which shows confidence in the company. Just do something.

WWSJD? He would do something, IMHO.



To: Road Walker who wrote (145125)11/16/2012 1:29:22 PM
From: Kelly G.4 Recommendations  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 213172
 
Whatever it is it's specific to Apple as they are way under performing the market... so I would at least take the cliff off your list.
I think the Fiscal Cliff is a big part of what is happening to Apple. And, if you look at, not the broader market, I suspect you might see something similar in any stock that has large capital gains over the last few years.

Why? It is likely that the capital gains rates and dividend rates will go up even with an agreement in Washington (not getting political here). Right now, capital gains are taxed at 15% and are scheduled to go up to 20% . However, capital gains in excess of $5,000,000 would be taxed at 25%. And, it is possible that they could go higher. So, if you are an institutional investor sitting on large capital gains, why not sell now and be taxed at 15% and then turn around and buy back in. The Wash Rule does not come into play since it is a gain and the IRS is happy to collect your money. Also, there is now hurry to buy back in since the technicals have suggested that Apple was going lower.

I think we continue to have this irrational (from a fundamental investors point of view) selling pressure to a point. Then, the buyers and re-purchasers come back into the market by storm as soon as the momentum swings north. Time frame is hard to judge but the Fiscal Cliff selling could potentially continue until the end of the year. Most, though, should clear out before then and some kind of spark to the upside would instigate some serious buying and I think as bad as things look now, January will be the absolute reverse.