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To: tejek who wrote (685237)	11/17/2012 2:22:45 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1584048

>> The demographics in this country have changed significantly during the past 30 years. The Dems have been actively recruiting the people making up that change; the Rs have not. What do you think will happen once the economic collapse occurs? I don't mean the blip in '08; I mean the one that will drive unemployment up to 30% or higher? When there is no money to pay for Medicare or SS? You think voters will stick with what caused it after they were warned by the other party?

To: tejek who wrote (685237)	11/18/2012 12:46:43 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1584048

Hi tejek; Yes the Republicans have problems but the party out of power always has "problems". My point is that the US is fundamentally a 2 party system and it will continue to be so. Getting elected is fundamentally an exclusionary process. Democrats who get excluded will naturally look to get onto the ballot some other way. In most cases, that means a conversion to Republican. Reagan was a former Democrat. My guess is that in looking for a successful presidential candidate, the Republicans should be looking for former Democrats. The wedge issue on that is social conservatism. The Republican gaffes make news mostly because the media is primed to report them. Eventually one of two things is going to happen. Either the economy will start booming again and people's economic interests will switch from needing government support to wanting to keep taxes low, or the economy will remain crappy and people will blame the authorities. Either way the Republicans will eventually end up in power again. Roosevelt broke this by a combination of a very deep depression and the uniting effect of a really big war. I don't see either of these happening any time soon. -- Carl P.S. I see some links to extremists using twitter. That's nothing. If you look around you can find magazines where the writers discuss how to set up death squads. The argument is not about whether death squads are moral, but instead how to avoid punishment and which types of weapons are most effective. But extremists have always been here. They're a minority so I don't worry so much about them. So long as the country is well fed we're safe from that sort of thing. We get into the kind of trouble Greece got into (and it would take a lot longer here because we print our own money), then yeah, we'll see the rise of extreme right wing parties and stuff so nasty you can't imagine it now. But that's a problem for the distant future. We're still the reserve country of the planet and they're still taking our IOUs.