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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: RetiredNow who wrote (128556)

12/7/2012 2:57:21 PM

From: Wharf Rat

Respond to of 149317

"Socialism is a creeping thing." So is capitalism. We are well on our way to a private for-profit military and public transportation system.

Maybe the creepers will balance out. Off The Cliff might just take the profit out of "Showers For Soldiers", as they become "Showers by Seabees".

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"Additionally, we have the world's largest welfare state, with 48 million people on food stamps"

I wonder why. You'd think the Waltons would step up and deal with the problem. Maybe you should advocate for a living wage, one high enuf that the worker actually makes enuf to not only feed his/her family unassisted, but with enuf money left over to be able to pay income tax.

"Today the Walton family of Walmart own more wealth than the bottom 40 percent of America."
Message 28583893

"as many as 80% of workers in Wal-Mart stores use food stamps,"
Walmart: America's real 'Welfare Queen' by Paddy Ryan

They both work in the fast-food industry — Mr. Carrillo at a McDonald’s in Midtown Manhattan and Mr. Williams at a Wendy’s in Brooklyn. They both earn a little more than $7 an hour. And they both need food stamps to survive. Last Thursday, both did something they had never done before: they went on strike.
nytimes.com
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"We already have the world's historically largest socialist program: Social Security and Medicare (OASI),"

if you omit every other developed nation in the world. Most people would put Canada, England, France, Benelux, Scandinavianstan, Israel, Switzerland, Japan, etc ahead of us. All those countries start their Medicare in the uterus. You haven't got a clue about what you spout; not a clue

Country	Start Date of Universal Health Care	System Type
Click links for more source material on each country’s health care system.
Norway	1912	Single Payer
New Zealand	1938	Two Tier
Japan	1938	Single Payer
Germany	1941	Insurance Mandate
Belgium	1945	Insurance Mandate
United Kingdom	1948	Single Payer
Kuwait	1950	Single Payer
Sweden	1955	Single Payer
Bahrain	1957	Single Payer
Brunei	1958	Single Payer
Canada	1966	Single Payer
Netherlands	1966	Two-Tier
Austria	1967	Insurance Mandate
United Arab Emirates	1971	Single Payer
Finland	1972	Single Payer
Slovenia	1972	Single Payer
Denmark	1973	Two-Tier
Luxembourg	1973	Insurance Mandate
France	1974	Two-Tier
Australia	1975	Two Tier
Ireland	1977	Two-Tier
Italy	1978	Single Payer
Portugal	1979	Single Payer
Cyprus	1980	Single Payer
Greece	1983	Insurance Mandate
Spain	1986	Single Payer
South Korea	1988	Insurance Mandate
Iceland	1990	Single Payer
Hong Kong	1993	Two-Tier
Singapore	1993	Two-Tier
Switzerland	1994	Insurance Mandate
Israel	1995	Two-Tier
United States	2014?	Insurance Mandate