<The Greeks got around the rape charges by bribing the parents the same way Zeus bribed Ganymede's father.>
"What rape charges??"
CHILD RAPE AND GENITAL MUTILATION IN ANTIQUITY
Historians usually characterize the routine rape of children in early states as “love,” whether in their books they entitle Loving Boys,38 by calling the rape “pedophilia” (which translates as “love of children”), or by picturing the rape as an approved instance of “gay rights,” ignoring the fact that the boys are minors, not consenting adults. That children are not harmed by sexual relations with adults is the claim made by dozens of scholarly authors, forming a long tradition of “blaming children for their abuse, accusing children of fabricating stories of abuse” and “inspired by the admiration and gratitude of the victims” toward the abuser.39 Boys are depicted by scholars as being “lonely” and needing sex, “seductive,” and as “routinely fellating older men [but] not abused despite ingesting their elders’ semen but ritually initiated into manhood.” ... men were addicted to raping young children, both boys and girls, in order to prove their virility and dominance. Their rapes were almost always agreed to by their parents, who often pimped their children and slaves for a price, rented them out to neighbors as servants to be raped, sold their virgin daughters for marriage for fifty pieces of silver, gave their children to pedagogues for sexual use, made their children serve at their banquets so they could be raped after dinner, went to war in order to rape the children of enemies, and handed over their children to the brothels, bath-houses and temples that could be found in any city of antiquity.
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Modern readers ought to recognize that pederasty is not inherent in society – particularly not in a society where women are well integrated.
My position is supported by another ancient authority, Aristotle, who blamed all of Sparta's ills on the fact that the women were in control of things – a fact that he attributed to the lack of homosexuality in Spartan society generally. In this Aristotle exhibits an astonishing appreciation of psychology. Modern research conclusively shows that male victims of child abuse generally grow into misogynous men. The status of women in Athens fits this pattern perfectly, while the status of women in Sparta completely contradicts – indeed, refutes – the thesis that Spartan men were systematically subjected to sexual abuse by their elders as children. (An excellent discussion of child abuse in ancient Greece can be found in Enid Bloch's "Sex Between Men and Boys in Classical Greece: Was it Education for Citizenship or Child Abuse?," in Journal of Men's Studies, January 2001.)
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Sex between Men and Boys in Classical Greece: Was It Education for Citizenship or Child Abuse?
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Boys in Athens seem to have been quite vulnerable to sexual attack. Laws were passed to try to protect them from random attacks on the streets or in the gymnasia or schools. Slave boys, of course, enjoyed no protection at all from their masters, who could use them or female slaves at will. Yet pederasty in its respectable form involved neither violent rape nor the use of a submissive slave, but the ardent courting of a free boy. The man flattered the boy and plied him with gifts. He himself was all but carried away by the intense desire to gaze upon and touch his beautiful "beloved," and any sort of ridiculous behavior would be forgiven him in his pursuit of the boy. "He may pray, and entreat, and supplicate, and swear, and be a servant of servants, and lie on a mat at the door."(13) He might write poems and sing songs and follow his desired one about.(14) The boy was not supposed to give in to these approaches too readily, but to consider his options and accept for himself a good "lover," not out of reciprocal desire, but for the benefits the man could bestow on him. Many a boy may have been given by his father to whatever man could benefit the father as well as the boy.(15) The "active" partner in the pederastic relationship most likely would have been a man in his twenties or thirties. He probably had started to use boys for sex when he himself was an older adolescent. Though the infatuations of pederasty began to look silly as the man advanced in age, some men must have continued to use boys well into their mature and later years. The boy himself was thought to be at the peak of his attractiveness between the ages of 12 and 16, though he might have been used by the man when he was even younger. The boy remained beautiful so long as his body seemed sexually immature. Once he passed through puberty and began to grow bodily hair, the man usually would replace him with a younger child.(16)
Though pederasty was openly practiced in Athens, at least in the circles of the intellectual class whose works we read, there was always an inner conflict about it, for in many ways the experience was deeply shameful for the boy. According to Athenian custom, Plato tells us, there can be no "dishonor" to "one who does service to another under the idea that he will be improved by him either in wisdom, or in some other particular of virtue,"(17) yet the very need to make that statement reveals the disgrace customarily associated with the boy's position.
As the "passive" partner the boy was being used "like a woman," a humiliating experience in itself, and one that could have lifelong consequences. The most shameful thing that could happen to any Greek male was penetration by another male. It was up to the boy to try to prevent this from occurring, to keep his lover within certain limits. Intercourse was acceptable if it took place intracrurally, that is, between the thighs, or in other ways that did not involve actual penetration. It is unlikely, however, that a young boy could control an adult male, and many must have had to submit to whatever the man desired.
"Question: Are all those Greeks going to Hell"
LOL If what you claim is true and all the Greek men were Homosexual Child Molestors then I would have to say the asnswer is YES, all those Child Molesting Homosexuals are going to Hell. Does that shock you? Have you sent flowers to Jerry Sandusky and Graham James yet? If not, then why not? |
