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To: Don Hurst who wrote (688372)	12/15/2012 4:31:27 PM
From: longnshort	4 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575517

Despite draconian gun control, gun violence up 89% in Great Britain Daily Mail Gun crime has almost doubled since Labour came to power as a culture of extreme gang violence has taken hold. The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year – a rise of 89 per cent. In some parts of the country, the number of offences has increased more than five-fold. In eighteen police areas, gun crime at least doubled.

To: Don Hurst who wrote (688372)	12/15/2012 4:32:49 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1575517

There were 192 shootings in Chicago throughout the month of November - a 49 percent increase from a year earlier - according to police records obtained by the Chicago Tribune. In November of 2011, Chicago recorded 129 shootings compared to the 192 shootings this November. Police records also reveal that shootings increased more than 11 percent in the first 11 months of 2012 compared with a year earlier. Total homicides in Chicago rose to 480 for the first eleven months of 2012; a 21 percent increase from last year. On November 30, 2012, there were four fatal shootings within the city. These murders brought the homicide total to 38 for the month, just above the 37 recorded in November of last year. Despite having some of the strictest gun laws in the country, Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel plans on restricting gun ownership further by banning individuals with a violent misdemeanor conviction from getting a gun permit for five years. The mayor also hopes to ban convicted felons from ever owning a gun. Emanuel's intentions are no doubt well intentioned, but like many cities with strict gun laws, the disarming of law-abiding citizens doesn't remove guns from the hands of those who wish to do harm. On the contrary, it often leaves innocent victims vulnerable to criminals. CNSNews.com previously reported that a gun-rights group said that Mayor Emanuel bears some responsibility for the murder rate because of the strict gun-control laws there: "Rahm Emanuel has some blood on his hands," said Alan Gottlieb, chairman of the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms, in a statement. "He and the city council have done everything possible to prevent law-abiding Chicago residents from exercising their restored Second Amendment rights in the two years since the Supreme Court's landmark McDonald ruling." In June 2010, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 5-4 against a handgun ban in the city of Chicago in McDonald v. Chicago. Four days later however, the Chicago City Council adopted the Responsible Gun Owners Ordinance. This requires prospective gun owners to take a firearm safety course at a gun range in order to obtain a permit to own a gun in a home. The city also placed a virtual ban on gun ranges. The Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms says that the Chicago City Council has been blocking Chicagoans from obtaining handguns and range-training; the result being that law-abiding citizens are left defenseless.

To: Don Hurst who wrote (688372)	12/15/2012 4:34:56 PM
From: longnshort	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575517

does Britain's film industry create violent gun moveis day after day ? do their Union leaders say there will be blood in the streets ? Do their Union leaders tell the gov that 'remember we will be at your daughters soccer game this saturday' ?

To: Don Hurst who wrote (688372)	12/15/2012 6:01:26 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Respond to of 1575517

In Britain 59 are killed with guns and in the USA over 8700 are killed by guns You seem to enjoy numbers - instead of just using guns as the metric how about some details on the person - after all they were involved as well. Percentage of gang members, mentally ill etc? Just having a really hard time believing the guns themselves are what cause gun violence or for that matter violence with any weapon. I would concede a gun is generally a far more effective weapon - but that does not make it the cause of any violence we see in the USA Perhaps since we instituted Obamacare ala the English health care model everyone touted - maybe we can start locking up all the mental patients and provide them the care they need. So they don't go nutty and start killing people because the voices told the to.