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To: Greg or e who wrote (1080)12/17/2012 12:50:08 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 2133
 
“Solon was a Homosexual Pederast which means he had sex with underage boys.”

There is no evidence that Solon ever had pederastic sex. If there is, please give it.

It sounds like you are fixated on Greek pederasty and Solon in particular! I wonder what that is about!? ;-)

Greece was a pederastic culture for about 1000 years. I have explained this to you several times but you are either exceptionally slow, exceptionally obtuse--or both.

The Greeks were not a homosexual culture because homosexuality is a sexual orientation people are born with and which cannot be changed to heterosexuality! Pederasty, on the other hand, is a cultural more--Unless you want to claim that all of Greece was homosexual and they suddenly had a genetic change sometime in the Roman era--LOL! What a Maroon!

Again, there is no evidence that Solon ever had pederastic sex. If there is, please give it.

Your inability or unwillingness to support your ridiculous attacks argues for an explanation involving some previous involvement which is preventing you from discussing the issue rationally and impersonally. You are clearly personally involved. Your attacks against people who lived 3000 years ago and in particular your bizarre fixation on one of the greatest of those people, the honoured Solon, suggest that your fascination with pederasty has personal roots and implications. Else why the beleaguered attempt to scour the internet in search of any sky fairy allegations to manipulate the facts of history?

“You have already stipulated the fact that Solon had sexual attractions to male children”

LOL! You are lying again. Clearly, you do not believe in Yabber Dabber or his “justice“ against liars! History shows that Solon wrote poems related to the pederastic culture. One can assume he honoured the culture through a pederastic relationship but history does not reveal that. (HELLO!) As I said, if he did act as either eromenos or erestes or both, that is not an insult in any way to his name. So your first accusation is meaningless and perhaps reflects hatred which obtains from some personally unpleasant experiences you have had. Clearly, a normal son does not obsess month after month, post after post, on the cultural mores of people dead for 2-3 thousand years!

Your second accusation is that Solon (back to Solon again) had sex with underage boys! Well, as to that--once again, you have no evidence that he had sex with any boys at all! Certainly, to suggest that he violated Greek custom and had sex with any boy who was underage or without the father's consent, is simply to reveal your bizarre and personal obsession with this man. Is it because he is so honoured throughout history as the Father of Democracy and one of the seven Sages of the world! Is it because mediocrity tends to hate all that is fine, good, uplifting, moral, respected, honoured and strong?

Well, that is a problem for you to deal with in your own privacy. You are embarrassing yourself with such mindless and bizarre attacks.

The facts are very simple:

No evidence that Solon was either an erestes or an eromenos--only that he wrote some poems about the culture. If he was either an ereste or an eronomos, there is no evidence that he was underage or that parental consent was lacking. And if he was either an erestes or an eromenos, there is no reason to think it involved money or immorality. As has been said, elsewhere, such a violation was serious and could result in life-long persecution.

“Don't you remember trying to change the definition of Pederasty to Homosexuality”

What a pathetic little liar you are! You come here trying desperately to pretend that homosexuality and pederasty are the same thing and then you steer the accusation to me! Nice projection. You are one sick boy. HA!

“is it an attack to state the fact that Graham James' sexually abused children?”

He did sexually abuse children, so how is that relevant to accusing people who did not? How does the fact that James is a sexual offender evidence that you (or anyone else) is a sexual offender?

“any adult who manipulates and uses children as objects to satisfy their own sick sexual perversions deserve to be despised”

Was this done to you? Do you want to let it out. It might help you a great deal. This is an anonymous forum and it might just bring you some much needed peace. Consider it, at least. Rather than continue your attacks against people dead for 2500 years...why don't you end this transparent attempt to be seen and heard? Why not be seen and heard right now and let go of that hate and pain. You have a right.