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To: bentway who wrote (2280)	12/21/2012 6:31:46 PM
From: unclewest	19 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 125426

Do you think you should have an RPG? Grenades? A machine gun? Bearing arms for self defense against our neighbors is a fine thing. Everyone who has ever been seriously threatened knows that. But that is not the reason our founders provided us with that right. The right to bear arms was provided to us by our founders, not so we can shoot kids and not so we can defend kids. We got that right so we can protect ourselves against an out of control government. Our politicians want protection, so they vote money to protect themselves. That option is not available to us. If you want to protect your kids, go ahead, spend some money and gun-up and protect them. If you want to protect the Constitution of The United States, and your personal freedoms, "against all enemies foreign and domestic", the rest of us will bring our weapons and assist you. If it ever gets to that, you will wish we all came 30 round magazines, machine guns, RPGs and grenades.

To: bentway who wrote (2280)	12/21/2012 6:59:59 PM
From: goldworldnet	10 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 125426

You've established your position that current firearm restrictions are insufficient. I think though and most here agree that current laws are adequate. What is missing though is enforcement of restrictions on individuals outlined in the Gun Control Act of 1968. Those include felons and those that are mentally unfit. A current shortcoming is a chronic failure of states to comply with reporting requirements by states to the federal database as required in the 1968 law. This is the problem and it is one primarily concerning firearm access by the mentally unfit. Although Adam Lanza used his mother's guns, that wasn't the case with Jared Loughner in Arizona who purchased his guns. The real issue at hand are shortcomings in the mental health and reporting systems. This is where the public dialog and the discussion on this thread need to reside. However, mandating new restrictions is not a position this thread takes or will justify by defending against the misguided onslaught of liberal activists which wish to direct the public discussion away from what is actually needed. * * *