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To: combjelly who wrote (689774)	12/23/2012 3:27:43 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1573096

>>> It didn't help. I don't think you or anyone can make that statement. I don't remember the details but I believe the armed deputy exchanged fire numerous times with the killers. How many lives did his actions save? Who knows. But it might have been many; we can't know how many lives might have been lost had the shooters not been distracted with having to defend themselves. It is a pretty safe bet SOME were.

To: combjelly who wrote (689774)	12/23/2012 5:37:36 PM
From: THE WATSONYOUTH	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573096

.At Columbine there was an armed deputy on the campus. It didn't help. The armed deputy was in his car in a park adjacent to the high school grounds when the shooting began in the school. It's no wonder it didn't help. The deputy never confronted the shooter IN the school.

To: combjelly who wrote (689774)	12/23/2012 6:38:10 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	1 Recommendation Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1573096

Contrary to Watson's self-serving account, there was at least one armed guard who exchanged shots with the shooters: Here is a detailed account of the entire day as chronicled and detailed by all the SWAT teams involved......simply amazing..... cnn.com much more that copied here......a must read. First Shooter Seen As soon as Gardner pulled into the south parking lot off of South Pierce Street, he saw kids running out of the school in every direction. As he drove around toward the south lot, he also saw smoke coming from the west end of the parking lot and heard several loud explosions. Students standing on the soccer field were pointing toward the building. He could hear gunshots coming from inside the school but could not pinpoint from where. Gardner pulled his vehicle into the senior parking lot where he had a good vantage point. He could see both parking lots, the cafeteria and the second story west entrance to the school. As he got out of his patrol car, he received a second call on the school radio. “Neil, there’s a shooter in the school.” Numerous patrol units and emergency vehicles already were responding to the school as the Sheriff’s dispatch center reported “female down” and “possible shots fired at Columbine High School.” There was so much traffic on the police radio that Gardner could not tell dispatch he was on scene. As Gardner stepped out of his patrol car, Eric Harris turned his attention from shooting into the west doors of the high school to the student parking lot and to the deputy. Gardner, particularly visible in the bright yellow shirt of the community resource officer uniform, was the target of Harris’ bullets. Harris fired about 10 shots from his rifle at Gardner before his gun jammed. Although Gardner’s patrol car was not hit by bullets, two vehicles that he was parked behind were hit by Harris’ gunfire. Investigators later found two bullet holes in each of the cars. Officer Exchanges Gunfire Gardner, seeing Harris working with his gun, leaned over the top of the car and fired four shots. He was 60 yards from the gunman. Harris spun hard to the right and Gardner momentarily thought he had hit him. Seconds later, Harris began shooting again at the deputy. After the exchange of gunfire, Harris ran back into the building. Gardner was able to get on the police radio and called for assistance from other Sheriff’s units. “Shots in the building. I need someone in the south lot with me.” It was 11:26 a.m. Only five minutes had passed since Jefferson County Sheriff’s dispatch center had announced a bomb explosion and subsequent fire on South Wadsworth Boulevard. Fleeing Students Report Multiple Shooters When Gardner called for additional units to respond to the south parking lot of Columbine High School, he had just exchanged gunfire with Eric Harris. Gardner could also hear gunshots coming from inside the building but he did not know who else was shooting, how many were in the school or where. While he was on the radio calling for assistance, five other Jefferson County deputies already were on their way, arriving only minutes after the first report of a “female down” at Columbine High School. As the first deputies arrived on campus, they were met by chaos and hysteria. Terrified students and teachers were fleeing in all directions from the high school in the suburban neighborhood. Others were still inside. The deputies could hear explosions coming from inside the school. The students were telling them about bombs, guns and hand-grenades, and about gunmen with assault rifles and semi-automatics. There were other reports of possible terrorists, four shooters, six shooters, 17 hostages. There was a man wearing a trench coat; there were two guys in trench coats. There was a guy in a white T-shirt, with hats, not with hats. The gunmen had changed clothes to blend in with the other students. There was a shooter on the roof. The gunmen were in the auditorium. No, they were in the cafeteria. The deputies had no concrete information about what was actually happening inside the building. They were facing live fire and had potentially 2,000 victims and hostages.